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J-dub
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 Re: oil cooler I just think its mad that you remove a wheel from a vehichle and class it as improved
Would you remove a wheel from a motorbike??
I once tried one wheel motorbike riding when the tyre exploded on the MS50 @ 30mph lucky not to fall off
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1993 Toyota Hilux Surf 3000cc runs on Bio Diesel
2004 Toyota Landcruiser Amazon 4200cc runs on Bio Diesel
1998 Daihatsu Hijet 1300cc
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samfieldhouse
Firing on two.
Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am
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Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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Re: oil cooler Terry wrote: So some-one buys a knackered old 2CV and saves it from the scrappy Therein is the most common issue - it's not saving a 2cv, it's turning it into something instead of saving it. If a 2cv was genuinely scrap, there would be nothing worth saving to build a kit car. Terry wrote: .....at least its still another "A" series derirative left on the road. This is my personal issue and it's all linguistic. It's not an A series derivative. It's a kit car that uses A series running gear. There's currently a problem with kit cars that look like 2cv vans. People are trying to get away with registering them as 2cv vans - which of course they aren't. They need to be registered with the DVLA as 2cv based kits - ideally built using parts that are already in a scrapyard or bought new, and taken through an SVA test. Quote: 5. Kit Conversions
This is where a kit of new parts is added to an existing
vehicle, or old parts are added to a kit of a manufactured
body, chassis or monocoque bodyshell. The general
appearance of the vehicle will change and result in
a different description being put on the Registration
Certificate (V5C).
A vehicle will keep the registration number of the original
vehicle if the original unaltered chassis/monocoque
bodyshell has been used along with two other major
components from the original vehicle.
If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist
kit manufacturer (or an altered chassis or bodyshell
from an existing vehicle) is used with two original major
components from the donor vehicle, a replacement
registration number will be issued based on the age of the
donor vehicle. The vehicle must have IVA, SVA or MSVA.
The date of manufacture for the vehicle will be taken from
the IVA, SVA or MSVA certificate.
Where insufficient parts from a donor vehicle are used or
in cases where the original registration is unknown IVA/
SVA/MSVA will be required to register the vehicle and a
'Q' prefix registration number will be allocated.
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| September 14th, 2012, 3:07 pm |
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J-dub
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Re: oil cooler I geuss this is why max's van is a q plate?
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1998 Daihatsu Hijet 1300cc
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ayjay
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Joined: April 27th, 2012, 6:48 pm
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Re: oil cooler Jameswallace wrote: I just think its mad that you remove a wheel from a vehichle and class it as improved
Would you remove a wheel from a motorbike??
I once tried one wheel motorbike riding when the tyre exploded on the MS50 @ 30mph lucky not to fall off noone said it was "improved", there have been many cars in the past that were 3 wheelers- some like kit cars some don,t the origional chassis was rotton , it has a new galv one, with brand new running gear, its registered on a q plate my bro drives an ak ,his wife a D*lly+me a D*lly
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| September 14th, 2012, 3:35 pm |
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Terry
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Joined: November 4th, 2009, 4:00 pm
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Re: oil cooler If the old chassis was so rotten that it needed a new one,and the running gear is all new .....that would imply to me that the original car was pretty well knackered. Now considering that there is an AK & 2x Dollys in Ayjay's family I would guess that no good body parts were wasted...... so whats the problem with another "kit car" . [btw .....has it occured to you that maybe the drivers of these 3 wheeled kit cars may be 'bikers who dont hold a full car licence,or even car drivers who only hold an "automatic" licence .....it is legal to ride a three wheeler in such circumstances ....ie Trikes & Reliant Robins]. I do hope the driver of the aforementioned Lomax [who was given "a good ignoring"] does'nt assume that all 2CVGB members have the same narrow minded attiude. Jameswallace wrote:
Would you remove a wheel from a motorbike??
I once tried one wheel motorbike riding when the tyre exploded on the MS50 @ 30mph lucky not to fall off
No ......the either the front forks or the rear swinging arm would scrape on the floor.  I would'nt class an MS50 as a motorbike .....I'd call it a mo-ped ..... [I could call one a few a other things,but as I stated in my earlier post ..... "Its bad form to criticise some-one elses vehicle" ] T.
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ayjay
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Re: oil cooler cheers terry, he bought the lomax from a fella on ebay, it was already converted but badly, very unsafe and botched- up
i didn,t realize that some 2cv owners look down on 3 wheelers, even calling them"death traps"
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(2cvs need an oil cooler, removing it is asking for trouble, maybe, with the engine exposed like a lomax deathtrap thing has will be ok all the time it's moving, but if it's sitting in traffic minus fan and minus oil cooler, it's going to overheat. Why would you want to remove it?)
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J-dub
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Re: oil cooler Fair enough if ni 2cv bits that are perfectly servicable to waste the guy i mentioned who came to the puddle ducks had taken a really original solid car and ruined it and scrappd all thr good bits Nothing Weong with a ms50
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Russell
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Re: oil cooler This: ayjay wrote: he bought the lomax from a fella on ebay, it was already converted but badly, very unsafe and botched- up
Explains this... ayjay wrote: i didn,t realize that some 2cv owners look down on 3 wheelers, even calling them"death traps"
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fritz
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Joined: July 14th, 2010, 1:21 am
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Re: oil cooler there's no denying I have one... Neil has previously spotted me harrassing moorland traffic in it (when the bamboo was living at grahams)...
...and although I might've inherited the (4 wheeled) lomax, it is great fun to drive. My personal favourite is the outrageous noises it makes on the over-run when you change down from 4th to 3rd..
you are correct it probably is a bit more of a death trap than the 2cv with no protection at all but I have resigned myself to the fact I will be dead if I crash either.
Regarding the oil cooler it would probably be rather foolish to remove it! I can advise getting the uprated (braided) oil cooler hoses from ECAS to replace the unprotected standard ones. The old man used to have standard ones until a stone thrown up on the dualcarriageway from the car infront split this and dumped all of his oil. immediately.
Its probably worth getting a harley coil as well - the amount of times I have been stuck in summer super sunny hot traffic....
regards,
fritz
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ayjay
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Re: oil cooler yes fritz, thanks for your advice, ill pass it on- if it were my project i would keep the oil cooler too , the existing one has braided hoses btw- i think heis going to fit a yellow coil , he has a secondhand electronic ignition set-up too he should have received the new stainless steel suspension cans today so its all,s good  andy
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