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 Solid state voltage regulators not up to the task? 
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Post Solid state voltage regulators not up to the task?
I tested the charge rate on the van yesterday - good job i did!

At idle, it was sitting about 14v and when revved it reached 15.9v before I chickened out.

I tried two of the 'solid state' (three prong) type voltage regulator but neither helped. In the end, we fitted an old 'coiled wire' (twin prong - earth via bulkhead mount) type from a Diane.

The older type have an adjuster inside so you can set the rate of charge. I should have taken photos :roll:

Essentially, you turn a wheel which adjusts the regulator so it outputs more, or less volts.

Hetty is now idling at about 12.5v and when revved goes up to a more sensible 14v.

I'm glad I could cure it this way because (typically) the alternator is a weirdo 60s 2cv one that citroen only fitted specifically to 350s for about 6 months of production :roll:

Some questions:
Why were the two solid state regulators not up to the task?
Am I going to blow up my phone/stereo/lights/battery if the battery is holding 13v instead of 12v?
Can I buy any little plug in thing that will further regulate the power supply so that only 12v is fed to the CD player/12v socket, or does it not matter?


May 25th, 2011, 1:58 pm
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Post Re: Solid state voltage regulators not up to the task?
Sam,
I'd guess that the earth lead on the 3 pin plug was not making contact, or isn't actually connected to earth, since electronic voltage regulators are usually directly interchangeable with the electro-mechanical type.

By switching to a Dyane/Ami? type, you've simply bypassed ( another ) problem with your loom, as those regulators are earthed through the bolted connection to the body.

As far as I know, the only difference with those alternators is that they have a couple of 'prongs' poking out of the back, which are connected to the unrectified part of the alternator's wiring.
That's used to operate a 'lack of charge' warning light, via a small box of electronics on the bulkhead.

System voltage in a 12 volt setup is 14.4 volts, so anything which is designed to be connected to a car's circuit should cope with it.
But, if you're worried, fit a good voltmeter.

ken.

( No more references to 'Dianes', please, or Hetty will have her name mangled in future posts... :roll: )


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I tested the charge rate on the van yesterday - good job i did!

At idle, it was sitting about 14v and when revved it reached 15.9v before I chickened out.

I tried two of the 'solid state' (three prong) type voltage regulator but neither helped. In the end, we fitted an old 'coiled wire' (twin prong - earth via bulkhead mount) type from a Diane.

The older type have an adjuster inside so you can set the rate of charge. I should have taken photos :roll:

Essentially, you turn a wheel which adjusts the regulator so it outputs more, or less volts.

Hetty is now idling at about 12.5v and when revved goes up to a more sensible 14v.

I'm glad I could cure it this way because (typically) the alternator is a weirdo 60s 2cv one that citroen only fitted specifically to 350s for about 6 months of production :roll:

Some questions:
Why were the two solid state regulators not up to the task?
Am I going to blow up my phone/stereo/lights/battery if the battery is holding 13v instead of 12v?
Can I buy any little plug in thing that will further regulate the power supply so that only 12v is fed to the CD player/12v socket, or does it not matter?

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May 25th, 2011, 3:22 pm
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Post Re: Solid state voltage regulators not up to the task?
ken wrote:
I'd guess that the earth lead on the 3 pin plug was not making contact, or isn't actually connected to earth, since electronic voltage regulators are usually directly interchangeable with the electro-mechanical type.


hmmm, the old one had a wire going to the gearbox, but I guess the connection was iffy.

ken wrote:
IAs far as I know, the only difference with those alternators is that they have a couple of 'prongs' poking out of the back, which are connected to the unrectified part of the alternator's wiring.
That's used to operate a 'lack of charge' warning light, via a small box of electronics on the bulkhead.


Aha! So maybe now the 'zit' on the dash might work?

Cheers Ken :)


May 25th, 2011, 8:02 pm
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Sam read my thread on my car
Been there, done that ;)

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May 25th, 2011, 9:41 pm
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May 25th, 2011, 9:50 pm
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[quote][Sam read my thread on my car
Been there, done that
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Did you get the T-shirt to James? :D

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No, but he wants one. :lol:

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