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Solid state voltage regulators not up to the task?
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samfieldhouse
Firing on two.
Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am Posts: 3324 Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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 Solid state voltage regulators not up to the task?
I tested the charge rate on the van yesterday - good job i did! At idle, it was sitting about 14v and when revved it reached 15.9v before I chickened out. I tried two of the 'solid state' (three prong) type voltage regulator but neither helped. In the end, we fitted an old 'coiled wire' (twin prong - earth via bulkhead mount) type from a Diane. The older type have an adjuster inside so you can set the rate of charge. I should have taken photos Essentially, you turn a wheel which adjusts the regulator so it outputs more, or less volts. Hetty is now idling at about 12.5v and when revved goes up to a more sensible 14v. I'm glad I could cure it this way because (typically) the alternator is a weirdo 60s 2cv one that citroen only fitted specifically to 350s for about 6 months of production Some questions: Why were the two solid state regulators not up to the task? Am I going to blow up my phone/stereo/lights/battery if the battery is holding 13v instead of 12v? Can I buy any little plug in thing that will further regulate the power supply so that only 12v is fed to the CD player/12v socket, or does it not matter?
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May 25th, 2011, 1:58 pm |
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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Sam, I'd guess that the earth lead on the 3 pin plug was not making contact, or isn't actually connected to earth, since electronic voltage regulators are usually directly interchangeable with the electro-mechanical type. By switching to a Dyane/Ami? type, you've simply bypassed ( another ) problem with your loom, as those regulators are earthed through the bolted connection to the body. As far as I know, the only difference with those alternators is that they have a couple of 'prongs' poking out of the back, which are connected to the unrectified part of the alternator's wiring. That's used to operate a 'lack of charge' warning light, via a small box of electronics on the bulkhead. System voltage in a 12 volt setup is 14.4 volts, so anything which is designed to be connected to a car's circuit should cope with it. But, if you're worried, fit a good voltmeter. ken. ( No more references to 'Dianes', please, or Hetty will have her name mangled in future posts...  ) samfieldhouse wrote: I tested the charge rate on the van yesterday - good job i did! At idle, it was sitting about 14v and when revved it reached 15.9v before I chickened out. I tried two of the 'solid state' (three prong) type voltage regulator but neither helped. In the end, we fitted an old 'coiled wire' (twin prong - earth via bulkhead mount) type from a Diane. The older type have an adjuster inside so you can set the rate of charge. I should have taken photos Essentially, you turn a wheel which adjusts the regulator so it outputs more, or less volts. Hetty is now idling at about 12.5v and when revved goes up to a more sensible 14v. I'm glad I could cure it this way because (typically) the alternator is a weirdo 60s 2cv one that citroen only fitted specifically to 350s for about 6 months of production Some questions: Why were the two solid state regulators not up to the task? Am I going to blow up my phone/stereo/lights/battery if the battery is holding 13v instead of 12v? Can I buy any little plug in thing that will further regulate the power supply so that only 12v is fed to the CD player/12v socket, or does it not matter?
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May 25th, 2011, 3:22 pm |
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samfieldhouse
Firing on two.
Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am Posts: 3324 Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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ken wrote: I'd guess that the earth lead on the 3 pin plug was not making contact, or isn't actually connected to earth, since electronic voltage regulators are usually directly interchangeable with the electro-mechanical type.
hmmm, the old one had a wire going to the gearbox, but I guess the connection was iffy. ken wrote: IAs far as I know, the only difference with those alternators is that they have a couple of 'prongs' poking out of the back, which are connected to the unrectified part of the alternator's wiring. That's used to operate a 'lack of charge' warning light, via a small box of electronics on the bulkhead.
Aha! So maybe now the 'zit' on the dash might work? Cheers Ken 
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May 25th, 2011, 8:02 pm |
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J-dub
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Joined: April 24th, 2010, 10:01 am Posts: 5733 Location: Location Location
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Sam read my thread on my car Been there, done that 
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May 25th, 2011, 9:41 pm |
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J-dub
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Joined: April 24th, 2010, 10:01 am Posts: 5733 Location: Location Location
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May 25th, 2011, 9:50 pm |
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Chris 2cv
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Joined: February 2nd, 2009, 10:25 pm Posts: 293 Location: Hampshire
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[quote][Sam read my thread on my car Been there, done that /quote] Did you get the T-shirt to James? 
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May 25th, 2011, 10:24 pm |
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Jonathan
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Joined: January 1st, 2009, 7:37 pm Posts: 4708 Location: Disunited Kingdom
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No, but he wants one. 
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May 25th, 2011, 10:33 pm |
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JRW_91
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Joined: January 27th, 2009, 8:10 pm Posts: 1289 Location: Northampton
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