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2CViking
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Joined: April 18th, 2009, 11:43 am
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Location: Meneac, Bretagne France
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 Re: CO2 France Maybe too much to read but have a look. Thanks to many people on this forum I have a very good setup today. All stuff coming from the UK, both gass and gassless systems viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3611&hilit=France+vs+England
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Peterj
2CV Fan
Joined: November 12th, 2010, 9:36 pm
Posts: 79
Location: 10km South of Bergerac in the Dordogne
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Re: CO2 France toomany2cvs wrote: Peterj wrote: Pure CO2 is cheaper but it has to be the right kind of bottle some let the gas evaporate of from the top of the bottle which is the right one the wrong type of bottle has a tube internally down to the bottom of the bottle and the gas comes out as a liquid and will ice the gauges up. What would happen if your first project was a cradle to hold the bottle upside down...? Hi. A trick question how are you going to hold it upside down whilst welding a cradle to hold it upside down  I do not know. Peter
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Diesel Dave
2CV Fan
Joined: October 31st, 2012, 5:31 pm
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Re: CO2 France Erm..... I though CO2 was one of those substances that went from solid to gas without any liquid state?
'Dry Ice' as it's traditionally called, we used to chuck blocks inside non-refridgerated vans to keep frozen food,,,,,,frozen.
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toomany2cvs
Firing on two.
Joined: December 26th, 2008, 9:40 pm
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Location: Surrounded by 2cvs...
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Re: CO2 France Diesel Dave wrote: Erm..... I though CO2 was one of those substances that went from solid to gas without any liquid state? At atmospheric pressure. Under pressure, it does. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxideQuote: Carbon dioxide has no liquid state at pressures below 5.1 standard atmospheres (520 kPa). At 1 atmosphere (near mean sea level pressure), the gas deposits directly to a solid at temperatures below −78.5 °C (−109.3 °F; 194.7 K) and the solid sublimes directly to a gas above −78.5 °C. In its solid state, carbon dioxide is commonly called dry ice.
Liquid carbon dioxide forms only at pressures above 5.1 atm; the triple point of carbon dioxide is about 518 kPa at −56.6 °C (see phase diagram, above).
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Tripyrenees
Firing on two.
Joined: December 17th, 2012, 10:03 pm
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Location: Luscan, Pyrenees, FRANCE
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Re: CO2 France
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ken
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Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am
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Re: CO2 France Guess it would depend on whether you can get it refilled for a reasonable price... Here's a UK seller with a similar product, plus some useful information about safety certificates and labelling of bottles ( although there may well be different rules and regulations in France  ). http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Co2-Gas-Bottl ... 20ce484caaken
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J-dub
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Joined: April 24th, 2010, 10:01 am
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Location: Location Location
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Re: CO2 France ken wrote: Guess it would depend on whether you can get it refilled for a reasonable price... Here's a UK seller with a similar product, plus some useful information about safety certificates and labelling of bottles ( although there may well be different rules and regulations in France ). http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Co2-Gas-Bottl ... 20ce484caaken I saw that ebay ad the other day Made me find out my pub size bottle went out of date in 2007  Oh well itll do for my learning getting somewhere now
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citroenboat
Firing on two.
Joined: November 11th, 2010, 4:19 pm
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Re: CO2 France Can u not have it tested & re-certificated? Have to have diving cylinders tested & certificated regularly - not as if CO2 is inflammable or anything...?
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Tripyrenees
Firing on two.
Joined: December 17th, 2012, 10:03 pm
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Location: Luscan, Pyrenees, FRANCE
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Re: CO2 France Just going back to the one I found on ebay - Would this bottle full of CO2 (new) be OK. It is sold for aquariums but compressed gas is compressed gas - I know it is only CO2 and not an Argon/CO2 mix but those bottle cost over €300 here (I have been to a few places). I didn't realise how much a pain the gas bottle would be  Cheers Ian
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am
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Re: CO2 France Ian, maybe best to sign up on this forum, plenty of good advice freely available... http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/For example; http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/show ... hp?t=13256& http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/show ... hp?t=19250and so on. For what it's worth, I've used CO2 pub gas for A series bodywork welding with no problems in the past, but with the rapid turnover in managers at the pub next door ( also less frequent visits to that establishment by myself  ), it's been large bottles of Argoshield for quite a few years. ken Tripyrenees wrote: Just going back to the one I found on ebay - Would this bottle full of CO2 (new) be OK. It is sold for aquariums but compressed gas is compressed gas - I know it is only CO2 and not an Argon/CO2 mix but those bottle cost over €300 here (I have been to a few places). I didn't realise how much a pain the gas bottle would be Cheers Ian
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