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baron_matt wrote:


Ooh a Bonnet yes please, as soon as I get the underside done I will be hunting panels. I do like the Nipple lights so maybe one day...


October 4th, 2012, 12:27 am
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Iv'e got one with yogurt pots from febr. 63

there are more diffrences to later ami's

front out of 2 parts instead of 3
V-grill instead of (=====)
no shockabsorbers only friction-absorbers like old 2cv have.
other airfliter (looks like a streamlined cycle-helmet) (sorry for my shit explenation)
standing pedalset inestead of hanging once
white dahsboard instead of black.

Mine is a confort version frontbench is positioned in a frame which can slide
economic version is hooked up to the floor like a 2cv.

there are more changes over the years some of them I know...

' 61 no slide backwindows
bootlid can be opend only from inside the car (pull thingy at right C pilar)

' 62 rainstrips at top frontdoors pop-rivettet

' mid 63 shockabsorbers

' model-year '64 backlights tits (well you now what I mean)
Belgium cars have doubletits packed together backlits and parklights on B pilar
stronger engine other airfilter (boxlike)

' 65 black dashboard

' 66 12 volt

' 67 2cv engine (as Russel said its the otherway round ami engine which fittet later in 2cv......

Well out off my head so might be wrong here or there...


Fantastic explanation, It is all starting to peice together for me now, so many thanks.


October 4th, 2012, 12:29 am
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I am having one of these situations going on as regards to the thought of doing a certain Modification called Channeling right now.
Mister Angel is saying Its a lovely old Classic Car Preserve it and dont mess with it...
Mr Snail...I mean Devil is saying DO IT, 6cm Section while the pans are out anyway...

Help!!!! which is the way to rigtiousness? :lol:

If I do follow the Red Guy with pointy forehead am I going to Classic car hell :twisted:


October 4th, 2012, 12:35 am
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Hi mark

I would be thinking the same, keep original or modify....

It's a sort of tricky one, but................ It's your car your choice there is no rule book to say what u can or can't do...
Says the man with the Dyane sidewinder, I know dyanes r certainly not as rare as the beast u have, but mine is modified all over the place...and plenty more to come :D

Been reading at load on "snail" and I would certainly do it, I would serious think about doing it to mind if I had that sort of welding skill...or knew a kind/helpful/cheap/local man who can....

Your choice bud, but I would certainly do it if it was mine.... ;)

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October 4th, 2012, 12:55 am
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samfieldhouse wrote:
Ami 6's changed from 'yoghurt pots' in 1966. Along with, I think, the change to 12v electrics. I'm guessing yours has been converted at some point in its life?

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You have the later (more powerful) engine - 26bhp, helped enormously by the bigger 40 carb. Interestingly, you seem to have the Dyane version of the carb (with long tubes on top). Also that's a trafficlutch carb, so if the trafficlutch is fitted, it will be a lovely drive.


Yogurt pots where phased out on 1964 and Saloons didn't go 12v until May 1966. The break didn't go 12v however until September 66.

Unlike the VW scene, where no body talks to you unless you slam and narrow the front beam, chrome every single piece of engine tinware and go for a look that has been done to death, the Citroen crowd is more relaxed.

A series that have been messed with suffer when it comes to resale and it would be a shame to change it. Also unlike VW Citroen actually got things like suspension dynamics and handling right first time and if you go low you lose the ability to scare the shit out of people by giving many degrees of lean in the bends. This is part of the charm. You don't buy an Ami to turn it into a Cal look VW; that sees you detach a retina on cats eyes, you buy an Ami for the magic carpet ride suspension, and the knowledge that you can hit speed bumps at 30mph plus no bother.

At the end of the day its your car, but why not give its original setup a chance first before you change it.

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October 4th, 2012, 1:10 am
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Maybe check the headroom you've got available in the Ami before deciding to reduce it by 60mm? ;)

Although it's possible to chop the same amount out of the seat legs to compensate, or so I've heard. :lol:

ken

( Might also be worth checking on Snail forum how many of the vehicles featured are used as daily drivers or kept by their creators for any length of time after the build... )


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Mr Snail...I mean Devil is saying DO IT, 6cm Section while the pans are out anyway...

Help!!!! which is the way to rigtiousness? :lol:

If I do follow the Red Guy with pointy forehead am I going to Classic car hell :twisted:

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October 4th, 2012, 1:48 am
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Amis do look very cool lowered. I had no trouble whatever living with the Ricard "van" as a daily driver for over a year. I know it wasn't lowered to extremes, but it was pretty low.

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October 4th, 2012, 1:58 am
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I was toying with the idea, but that lot are a bunch of teases :lol:

Other Matt, Im trying to change but old habits die hard :lol:

If its any consolation with the VW lot they are starting to go away from the whole lowered thing, and cars that were slammed are starting to go up in the world again slowly but surely.
I got out of the VW thing as it was becoming too formulaic.
People getting a virtual crucifixion for fitting the wrong year front wings, Lights that sort of thing.
There is a big chunk of me that thinks sympathetic renovation is the way to go on this one too if that helps?

and when i mean sympathetic I mean the car that got driven into the field with as much of that car as I can reasonably salvage within reason.
I dont however want it to be like a new car, I like the fact the seats are faded, I like the fact the paint looks like it was applied a long time ago.
I will be looking to make it solid and have a Mechanical overhaul where needed.
but I will be matching what is currently good on the car if that makes sense?
If something Is Knackered and has a rathole in it , it will be repaired replaced, If it looks slightly worn or has surface blemishes but is servicable it stays put.
Its a retorical question When does a nice old car become a museum peice and cease to be a motor vehicle for fear of devaluing it?
As for affecting its resale with mods? That is another bone that takes some chewing.

Who am I building for? Ultimately me really. I have been dicking about with old cars since I was old enough to drive. Never once have I come in under budget and made a profit on any of my disguarded toys :lol:

Bottom line like it will be for most of us doing the car thing.
Its a hobby, Like fishing, stamp collecting, Playing Golf...Do what works, and enjoy it.

For me The payoff needs to be the enjoyment, very few people make a living out of fixing up old cars, like very few make a profit out of smacking tiny balls about fields on a sunny afternoon.

I have had work done by "Proffesional" Restorers in the past, Highly regarded ones as it happens.
Athough they will do a good job it will always be dont to a price.
On that car I looked at the handywork i was initially happy with again a few weeks later, took off the rose tints, saw the same wadges of filler I would have used had I been a bit slap dash, lets get the car out and the money in.
So I Sold the car quickly, decided that even restorers must be human too, bought a Mig learned how to use it.
I dont farm stuff out any more.

Sorry i digress...:lol:

Really the Bottom line this time or nearly so bear with me please.

If any one of us did the best possable job, Added the parts we bought, added the labour, Would any of us be onto a winner?

Sorry If I went into one, No Vitriol was aimed at yourself , I just find it facinating that we as petrolheads in general expect to break even on a hobby we are fanattical about.
I am under no illusion this car will cost me more than Its worth.
It dont matter though as long as I am having fun :D


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October 4th, 2012, 2:03 am
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[quote="ken"]Maybe check the headroom you've got available in the Ami before deciding to reduce it by 60mm? ;)

Although it's possible to chop the same amount out of the seat legs to compensate, or so I've heard. :lol:

ken

( Might also be worth checking on Snail forum how many of the vehicles featured are used as daily drivers or kept by their creators for any length of time after the build... )


Im a Shortarse Ken :lol: You do raise a valid point though, would it make the car a pain in the arse to live with ultimately stopping me driving it regularly, Or would it improve it for me.
This is all accedemic right now as said car is sitting on the driveway awaiting a cash.metal,migwire injection.
I get the feeling it will be the former.
I might just build it straight and give myself the option of tweaking it should I choose without doing anything permenant.
Compromise
Hell Yeh, I must be getting old :lol:
I do know my limits though. I need to steam in and make a certain amount of headway soon otherwise I will never get it on the road.
I think I have the sympathetic resto in me, tag teaming it with mates in places to get it done.
But a channel job, not so sure i wont hit a hurdle and give up.


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The thing is, you can always make up a pair of turned front arms, fit them and slam the thing to the floor. If you don't like it there, take your turned arms off, sell them to one of the racers, and put it back to standard again. It's all of an afternoon's work. Mind you, ideally you'd also fit stiffer springs, which would be a bit more involved.

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