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Brooky
2CV Fan
Joined: February 9th, 2009, 9:12 pm Posts: 41 Location: Braunton, North Devon
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 Battery drain when running.
Does anybody on here know what the ampere hour drain is when a 12 volt 2CV engine is running? No other drains involved, just the engine and no input from an alternator. I'm trying to work out running times on a battery alone, no charging system and no lights.
Brooky.
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August 19th, 2012, 12:15 am |
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ayjay
Firing on two.
Joined: April 27th, 2012, 6:48 pm Posts: 709
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 Re: Battery drain when running.
just the ignition& coil, and of course the strarting motor unless you used the starting handle if the batterys new is a consideration if its old well its conjecture the battery will have the output& date of manifactuer printed on it,but if its not being charged its an uknown quantity i might be wrong
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August 19th, 2012, 12:26 am |
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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 Re: Battery drain when running.
Brooky, it would depend on the primary resistance of the coil, if it's a standard 2CV coil with 3.5 ohms and say 50% dwell on the ignition, that would pull an average of just under 2 amps. Stay away from the brake pedal (3.5 amps)  and divide the rated amp-hours of your battery by 2, then 2 again to give you a reasonable factor of safety in the 'get you home' stakes. Or carry another battery, but don't forget that running a standard battery right down will reduce its service life. Maybe a leisure battery would be more suitable, as they're claimed to cope with deep discharge usage. ken Brooky wrote: Does anybody on here know what the ampere hour drain is when a 12 volt 2CV engine is running? No other drains involved, just the engine and no input from an alternator. I'm trying to work out running times on a battery alone, no charging system and no lights.
Brooky.
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August 19th, 2012, 12:58 am |
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Brooky
2CV Fan
Joined: February 9th, 2009, 9:12 pm Posts: 41 Location: Braunton, North Devon
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 Re: Battery drain when running.
Thanks Ken, that's excellent. I was thinking that a leisure battery might be a better option. The question was in fact, not actually concerning a 2CV but my 1934 Morgan three wheeler, which is running a 2CV coil. So your figures still apply. I'm intending to run it in 'stripped down racer style' with no lights (bar a brake light, oops!) and no mudguards. The car also has no starter motor so no enormous coil-robbing drain there either. Not really worried about the MOT situation as I soon won't need one. Happy days!
Brooky.
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August 19th, 2012, 8:54 am |
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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 Re: Battery drain when running.
Brooky, that sounds like great fun, I think a photograph or two may be requested. With the benefit of a good night's sleep, a couple of ideas; Fitting an led brake light would reduce its consumption to next to nothing. Using a 'points assisted' ignition unit such as the Boyer Bransden ID or a Velleman kit would allow the use of slightly wider points gap/lower dwell, with reduced current draw for your ignition. ken
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August 19th, 2012, 11:43 am |
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Brooky
2CV Fan
Joined: February 9th, 2009, 9:12 pm Posts: 41 Location: Braunton, North Devon
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 Re: Battery drain when running.
Thanks Ken. Yes, I was aware of automotive LED bulbs but failed to make the connection in my brain that I could, in fact, use one! As to the CDI ignition systems, I must look into that as they seem stupidly cheap for quite a lot of benefit, apparently. I'll have to find a good hiding place for it though!
Brooky.
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August 19th, 2012, 7:44 pm |
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Devils Advocate
Firing on two.
Joined: July 26th, 2009, 3:36 pm Posts: 1019
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 Re: Battery drain when running.
With such a low drain, I wouldn't worry too much about hurting your battery. What are the chances of you actually running it completely flat each time anyway?! Surely you'd get the best part of 20+ hours running given Ken's figures - ain't that enough (or are you going for endurance racing...  )
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August 20th, 2012, 12:07 pm |
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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 Re: Battery drain when running.
http://www.mmbalmainauto.com.au/PDF/Sta ... teries.pdf The problem is that unless the battery voltage/state of charge is monitored accurately, it's very easy to run it virtually flat, with the consequence being much reduced service life. ken Devils Advocate wrote: With such a low drain, I wouldn't worry too much about hurting your battery. What are the chances of you actually running it completely flat each time anyway?! Surely you'd get the best part of 20+ hours running given Ken's figures - ain't that enough (or are you going for endurance racing...  )
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August 20th, 2012, 12:16 pm |
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Brooky
2CV Fan
Joined: February 9th, 2009, 9:12 pm Posts: 41 Location: Braunton, North Devon
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 Re: Battery drain when running.
Crikey Ken, I never realised there was so little 'indicated voltage' difference between a fully charged battery and a flat one. I guess I shall need to add a voltmeter to the dashboard. That's ok, I can put it where the light switch won't be! I'm not planning on 20+ hour journeys but I will be carrying a spare, fully charged battery and both will be leisure batteries. Not a problem as I work on a caravan holiday park with a well-stocked accessory shop!
Brooky.
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August 20th, 2012, 11:31 pm |
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J-dub
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Joined: April 24th, 2010, 10:01 am Posts: 5733 Location: Location Location
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Brooky
Marine battery's tend to have a bit more grunt. Maybe worth a thought ?
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August 21st, 2012, 9:05 am |
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