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Lenny
Firing on two.
Joined: December 28th, 2008, 11:58 pm
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 Re: psi's , in the tyres Well I think they should look at going back to the old compound then.
I replaced the two original Michelins after about 22 years and 68000 miles, when they still had about 3mm of tread left but were cracking quite badly.
The Michelins I replaced them with now have about 3mm tread left and are cracking really badly after 3 years and 20000 miles.
Not particularly chuffed at £100 a corner.
Currently waiting to see if I can get a claim out of Michelin.
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J-dub
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Re: psi's , in the tyres did the car live outside lenny?
my michelins where 23 years old when i replaced them last week, tons of tread, but cracks and bulgy sidewalls
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Russell
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Re: psi's , in the tyres deuchebleu wrote: Ok, so are you suggesting the article I quoted is a complete fabrication, no pun intended. I've just fished it out and re-read it. They make them in a small workshop at Cataroux, Clermont-Ferrand which is where their heritage tyre manufacturing is based. The individual elements, layers of rubber, radial plies, steel rings etc are assembled by hand. Obviously they use machines to mould and press and cure the tyre but it is essentially a hand operation, from one machine to another. Just to quote some more facts; each tyre takes 20 minutes to make, they make approximately 8500 per year of the 125 X and they say it is structurally and dimensionally the same as the original tyre but uses a modern rubber compound to improve adhesion and wear characteristics.
John Calm down. I'm only pointing out what I've seen in Mich's training and PR guff, in which they showed how their barcode reading production line thing could make 125 2cv tyres and duck off great sports car tyres without a massive retooling procedure.
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2CViking
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Joined: April 18th, 2009, 11:43 am
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Location: Meneac, Bretagne France
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Re: psi's , in the tyres deuchebleu wrote: Ok, so are you suggesting the article I quoted is a complete fabrication, no pun intended. I've just fished it out and re-read it. They make them in a small workshop at Cataroux, Clermont-Ferrand which is where their heritage tyre manufacturing is based. The individual elements, layers of rubber, radial plies, steel rings etc are assembled by hand. Obviously they use machines to mould and press and cure the tyre but it is essentially a hand operation, from one machine to another. Just to quote some more facts; each tyre takes 20 minutes to make, they make approximately 8500 per year of the 125 X and they say it is structurally and dimensionally the same as the original tyre but uses a modern rubber compound to improve adhesion and wear characteristics.
John Very interesting. Would you by any chance have any info on French made Mabor. A tyre I think is top quality but not made any more. Cheers Viking
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deuchebleu
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Re: psi's , in the tyres No, sorry Viking. I thought Mabor were Portugese. They are now part of the Continental Tyre group.
No offence taken Russell.
I've got 12 year old Uniroyals on mine, horrible tyres, squeal in the dry and slide in the wet but I can't wear them out on the mileage I do. I did swap one with the spare as there was some evidence of sidewall cracking so it's not only Michelin that do this.
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2CViking
viking bastard
Joined: April 18th, 2009, 11:43 am
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Re: psi's , in the tyres deuchebleu wrote: No, sorry Viking. I thought Mabor were Portugese. They are now part of the Continental Tyre group.
No offence taken Russell.
I've got 12 year old Uniroyals on mine, horrible tyres, squeal in the dry and slide in the wet but I can't wear them out on the mileage I do. I did swap one with the spare as there was some evidence of sidewall cracking so it's not only Michelin that do this.
John We just received 10 Mabor 135/15 and Made in France is stamped on them.
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Lenny
Firing on two.
Joined: December 28th, 2008, 11:58 pm
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Re: psi's , in the tyres Quote: did the car live outside lenny?
my michelins where 23 years old when i replaced them last week, tons of tread, but cracks and bulgy sidewalls
No James, it's usually garaged and they've spent most of their life on the back so half the tyre is in the dark all the time anyway. Like I say, these two replaced the original factory Michelins that had lasted about 22 years and 68000 miles. Unfortunately they look just as bad after a tenth of the time and a third of the mileage. I can accept that I quite often drive like a knob but nevertheless I'd expect them to last longer than that and not crack up. I've sent pics to Vintage Tyre Supplies and they're seeing what Michelin are going to do about it.
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