There is a tie in with insurance as the DVLA are linking up with the Car insurance agencies. There is new ruling coming out at the end of June that all cars regardless of being used or not have to be insured, unless and here you start reading the fine print, that the car has a valid SORN declaration.

So if its not on SORN it must be insured,
its its not taxed it must be SORNed,
If its neither they will throw the book at you.

Squeeze I agree with you soon I'm sure they'll ban driving and tax people for the air they breathe.

Sad reflection on how the UK govt treats its voters as criminally-minded until they jump through all the hoops designed to keep useless public-sector workers in a job and the multi-billion £ insurance industry scam nicely funded. The honest man in the middle doesn't stand a chance, quite frankly.

With ANPR cameras everywhere, the scam is revealed for what it is.

is this the very same ' useless public sector workers' that are losing their jobs in the hundreds?
Sorn the car ffs, it takes 5 mins to do it online and moan about something important in life.

Any more stupid, subversive new laws which masquerade as 'crime fighting' or 'public protection' - in reality there to catch out the old, forgetful and ill and make money or to erode civil rights which you think are just, Ginger? Tip of the iceberg, fella. Freedom is hard won and fought for, very quickly and easily lost as Tony Blair demonstrated. You don't always appreciate things until they're gone and once gone, almost impossible to return.

and exactly how much fighting for freedom have you done sonny?

Hmmmmm, we have to wait until the end of the month until we find out if my "useless public sector" wife still has a job. If not, anybody want an Ami?

Thought someone would assume I was including all psw. Of course not, but some of those employed in jobs created for their own sake, for example relating to SORN, are unnecessary in my view. Of course now some of you will think I am a heartless b, not bothered etc. My heart goes out to people who have been employed by the state to alter the jobless stats, any of the truly brilliant workers involved in healthcare or education who are sacrificied so we can continue to run pointless schemes like SORN should feel more than aggrieved. With the state of affairs as it is, though, I can see how this will happen - you can't measure care or learning on a monetary scale whereas SORN generates money.

Well Spanners, since its an Ami..... yeah!

Swap for a uber Low miles LNA?

Being a 'useless public sector worker' myself, I too am on a temporary contract until October.

Why exactly is SORN pointless? I'm the first person to moan about 'road fund licenses' given the state of the cart tracks that I use to get to work, however it makes total sense to me that if your car can be driven on the road it must be insured.

This *is* protecting me as its another hurdle in the way of would be uninsured drivers.

I was not using the 'useless jobs' as a cover-all, as I made clear (obviously not enough) in a previous post -

I will re-phrase my 'useless public-sector workers' to '...to keep those employees engaged in useless jobs - such as SORN'. I apologise to those of you who took it the wrong way. The insurance industry is working hand-in-glove with govt to ensure their profits are maintained at the very comfortable level they are used to. Honest John speaks much sense on this whole scam.

We will have to disagree about SORN being useful, Sam, the amount of paperwork sent out by Swansea when you buy or sell, tax or SORN a vehicle compared with a few years ago should at least stir up some eco-guilt? I think people have a more valuable role to play in society than helping create paperwork mountains and nightmares regarding rules which don't need to exist.

If you think the criminal element are prevented from carrying on their work, think again. They will simply clone a car's identity as necessary. Which all the ANPR cameras cannot pick up. How much more red-tape do think we all need to rid ourselves of crime/terrorism?