Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints?
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samfieldhouse
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Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am Posts: 3324 Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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 Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints?
I've seen these at various meetings and the L2B but never actually seen a car fitted with them - unless possibly the current 2cv City showcar Has anybody experiance of them or heard any good reviews about them? http://www.gardnercars.co.uk/index.html
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January 2nd, 2010, 2:26 pm |
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spanners
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They just look like they add extra unsprung weight to me without any real benefit-kingpins are so easy to change/maintain, why bother. Also, technically, they're an MOT failure straight from the off as they've been welded and you're not supposed to have modified suspension/steering components.* *I know I'm a hypochrite as I have modified/welded suspension arms but just a point I thought I'd raise. 
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January 2nd, 2010, 5:09 pm |
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toomany2cvs
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Joined: December 26th, 2008, 9:40 pm Posts: 3332 Location: Surrounded by 2cvs...
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 Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints?
spanners wrote: Also, technically, they're an MOT failure straight from the off as they've been welded and you're not supposed to have modified suspension/steering components.* *I know I'm a hypochrite as I have modified/welded suspension arms but just a point I thought I'd raise.  Oooh, and he's right, too... http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m3s02000204.htmReasons for Rejection - d. structural repair by welding to a steering linkage component, or signs of excessive heat having been applied
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January 2nd, 2010, 7:01 pm |
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spanners
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 Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints?
Indeed, remember what I do for a living 
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January 2nd, 2010, 7:07 pm |
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2CViking
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Joined: April 18th, 2009, 11:43 am Posts: 2424 Location: Meneac, Bretagne France
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 Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints?
toomany2cvs wrote: spanners wrote: Also, technically, they're an MOT failure straight from the off as they've been welded and you're not supposed to have modified suspension/steering components.* *I know I'm a hypochrite as I have modified/welded suspension arms but just a point I thought I'd raise.  Oooh, and he's right, too... http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m3s02000204.htmReasons for Rejection - d. structural repair by welding to a steering linkage component, or signs of excessive heat having been appliedAgree. Why reinvent the wheel  If you gease the king pins every 1000 km, they last forever, nearly. 
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January 2nd, 2010, 7:09 pm |
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Russell
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Joined: November 29th, 2008, 10:05 pm Posts: 9259 Location: West Sussex, U.K.
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 Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints?
Those arms are really nasty looking things too, if my welding looked as bad as that I'd be sacked straight away. I've had cars with knackered balljoints before too, so I can't see what problem these solve. Kingpins greased regularly are no problem, and probably quicker to change than four balljoints?
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January 2nd, 2010, 7:45 pm |
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spanners
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Russell wrote: probably quicker to change than four balljoints? Too bloody right! Besides, if we reinvent everything on a 2CV/derivative to iron out all the perceived "problem" areas, we wouldn't have much 2CV left! Yeeeuch, Lomax (plastic body), galv chassis, ball joints etc  Actually, you'd have that Savoia Mehari thing, that's even got 4 stud hubs to give you wheel choice 
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January 2nd, 2010, 7:54 pm |
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toomany2cvs
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Joined: December 26th, 2008, 9:40 pm Posts: 3332 Location: Surrounded by 2cvs...
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 Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints?
spanners wrote: Indeed, remember what I do for a living  It wouldn't be the first time a tester had claimed something was in the test that wasn't... <grin>
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January 2nd, 2010, 7:59 pm |
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spanners
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 Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints?
It's something I get ribbed/slagged off about because of my cut and turned arms. It's normally at an MOT where the testers try and invent things though isn't it? 
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January 2nd, 2010, 8:03 pm |
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samfieldhouse
Firing on two.
Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am Posts: 3324 Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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 Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints?
spanners wrote: They just look like they add extra unsprung weight to me without any real benefit-kingpins are so easy to change/maintain, why bother. Also, technically, they're an MOT failure straight from the off as they've been welded and you're not supposed to have modified suspension/steering components.* *I know I'm a hypochrite as I have modified/welded suspension arms but just a point I thought I'd raise.  That's really interesting I wonder how many people have actually had them fitted? Sounds like a Quote: tell you what love, what you need is.... Russell wrote: Kingpins greased regularly are no problem, and probably quicker to change I hope so!
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January 2nd, 2010, 8:04 pm |
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