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If only we didn't have fans and engine cowlings...
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Russell
Firing on two.
Joined: November 29th, 2008, 10:05 pm
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Location: West Sussex, U.K.
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 If only we didn't have fans and engine cowlings... Found this on Retro Rides, pity we can't do the same on a 'proper' aircooled car! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhfcdQf1QA
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Simon Crook
Firing on two.
Joined: June 14th, 2009, 10:27 pm
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Re: If only we didn't have fans and engine cowlings... Cool but Dangerous 
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Daffy Duck
2CV Fan
Joined: April 21st, 2009, 2:36 pm
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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Re: If only we didn't have fans and engine cowlings... Yep.Great party trick. Sounds terrific. Problem is, that belt not only runs the generator, but also the fan that is behind the generator. The engine is in the rear. There are some slots in the body above the engine lid. Without the fan running, there is no air getting in. When you subtract "air" from "air cooled", you don't get "cooled". You get "cooked". There are two ways you know when the fan belt breaks on a VW Beetle. Firstly , the generator light comes on (if the bulb works), or otherwise, the engine seizes.
Take the 2CV. The fan is bolted directly to the crankshaft (if the fan doesn't work, its because the engine doesn't work). The belt is only used to drive the alternator. You can still drive a long way on the battery. You won't be seizing an engine. For that matter, you could remove the fan and still drive the car, but you need to be cruising quickly to get a good airflow, and I wouldn't recommend this on a very hot day.
I think the VW Beetle is a well built, bad design. I think the 2CV is a badly built, good design. The motorists never win, do they.
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toomany2cvs
Firing on two.
Joined: December 26th, 2008, 9:40 pm
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Location: Surrounded by 2cvs...
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Re: If only we didn't have fans and engine cowlings... Daffy Duck wrote: Take the 2CV. The fan is bolted directly to the crankshaft (if the fan doesn't work, its because the engine doesn't work). Not _quite_ true - fan hubs crack and split, fan bolts come loose. Quote: I think the VW Beetle is a well built, bad design. I think the 2CV is a badly built, good design. <applause>
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am
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Re: If only we didn't have fans and engine cowlings... Hi folks. as long as you're referring to the last of the 2CV run, I'd agree that there may be some truth in that statement. However, I don't believe that it's in any way applicable to the early cars. ken. [quote="toomany2cvs] I think the VW Beetle is a well built, bad design. I think the 2CV is a badly built, good design. <applause>[/quote]
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TimCV
2CV Fan
Joined: September 7th, 2009, 5:21 pm
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Re: If only we didn't have fans and engine cowlings... The Beetle was a cheap car designed (pinched from the Czechs by Porsche) to travel long distances in a straight line consuming the minimal amount of fuel. It was a good design for what it was intended to do. On old French roads it would probably have fallen apart. So not so well built.
My 2CV isn't badly built, it's just French - tough, but not designed to look strong to untrained eyes, as many German cars are.
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