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Lars E
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Joined: April 17th, 2009, 8:30 pm Posts: 111 Location: Aale city, denmark
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 2cv – Ami super frame reinforsmet
What is the difference in reinforcements at one ami super-frame in relation to a 2cv. Know that the frame at a different engine. Must use the information to enhance my 2cv's frame so it can pass MOT (it has been tuned turbo and injection over 70Hp.)
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August 13th, 2009, 12:15 pm |
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toomany2cvs
Firing on two.
Joined: December 26th, 2008, 9:40 pm Posts: 3332 Location: Surrounded by 2cvs...
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 Re: 2cv – Ami super frame reinforsmet
Lars E wrote: What is the difference in reinforcements at one ami super-frame in relation to a 2cv. Know that the frame at a different engine. Must use the information to enhance my 2cv's frame so it can pass MOT (it has been tuned turbo and injection over 70Hp.) Lars, The whole front of the chassis is a different shape - everything forward of the suspension - so it's difficult to compare. I'll let others (Ken is probably the best placed) give a definite, but I _think_ that the Super chassis uses thicker metal. If you follow the Ici Commence l'Aventure reinforcements, you should be along the right lines. Bear in mind, too, that Ami Super suspension is uprated, compared to 2cv. The springs are bigger diameter, stronger, and not front-rear linked. The wheel bearings are bigger. There's anti-roll bars (thicker than Ami 8, and rear as well as front). The front brakes are bigger. I want to hear more about the turbo and injection...
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August 13th, 2009, 12:41 pm |
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Joe
Firing on two.
Joined: July 23rd, 2009, 4:03 pm Posts: 1019 Location: Bournemouth
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 Re: 2cv – Ami super frame reinforsmet
All Ami chassis have longer and bigger spring retainers when compared to the 2cv chassis. The spring retainers stick out above (and below) the chassis and are longer then those fitted to the 2cv, Dyane and Mehari. The floors on these cars need humps in the floor and the reinforcements underneath the floors have to be modified to clear the spring retainers. The AK, AKS and Acadiane vans have a chassis with similar spring retainers. also the thickness of the ami super chassis is 1.2mm and the 2cv one 0.8mm taken from http://www.cats-citroen.net/home.htmlHTH Joe.
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August 13th, 2009, 3:06 pm |
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Russell
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Joined: November 29th, 2008, 10:05 pm Posts: 9259 Location: West Sussex, U.K.
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 Re: 2cv – Ami super frame reinforsmet
Welcome Lars,
We meant to come and have a chat about using your car as a feature car on this site when we are at Most, but I guess the beer and women distracted us...
Still, maybe next time?
Nice to have you on board as a member though, I'm sure Ken (who builds chassis for a living!) will be along soon and is best placed to advise you of how to make yours stronger, or the best chassis to use.
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August 13th, 2009, 6:57 pm |
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Russell
Firing on two.
Joined: November 29th, 2008, 10:05 pm Posts: 9259 Location: West Sussex, U.K.
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 Re: 2cv – Ami super frame reinforsmet
toomany2cvs wrote: I want to hear more about the turbo and injection...
Have a gander at this, Lars 2cv in action... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3fo2tud ... re=related
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August 13th, 2009, 7:03 pm |
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Lars E
Firing on two.
Joined: April 17th, 2009, 8:30 pm Posts: 111 Location: Aale city, denmark
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 Re: 2cv – Ami super frame reinforcements
Hi. The shaping of the frame, larger spring boxes and brakes. i now. (Has already GSA for brakes and rear brakes ACADIAN ready + hard springs. Have no room for super / ACADIAN springs pga bodywork and run height) What I wanted to know was what we should do about the original frame so that it could be approved with a 50-60Hp. Are there other 2cv frame is just as strong as super AMI?? (non-original) My problem is not so much strength in the original framework, but MOT. I'm missing a piece of paper which says that the frame is strong enough or that I can show them that I have mounted some reinforcements from a model with more HP. Excuse my English, I use google Translators from Danish to English
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August 14th, 2009, 12:32 pm |
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toomany2cvs
Firing on two.
Joined: December 26th, 2008, 9:40 pm Posts: 3332 Location: Surrounded by 2cvs...
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 Re: 2cv – Ami super frame reinforcements
Lars E wrote: Are there other 2cv frame is just as strong as super AMI?? (non-original) My problem is not so much strength in the original framework, but MOT. I'm missing a piece of paper which says that the frame is strong enough or that I can show them that I have mounted some reinforcements from a model with more HP. I think you need to look at the Citroen publication, "Ici Commence l'Aventure" You should be able to buy an original published copy from eBay - and I think that's the only way you'll get the Danish authorities to recognise it - but you can get a scanned copy at http://transahara.googlepages.com/aventure.pdfThat wasn't intended to deal with more power, but with rough terrain on an African raid, though.
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August 14th, 2009, 12:36 pm |
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Lars E
Firing on two.
Joined: April 17th, 2009, 8:30 pm Posts: 111 Location: Aale city, denmark
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 Re: 2cv – Ami super frame reinforsmet
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August 14th, 2009, 2:09 pm |
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