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citroenboat
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Joined: November 11th, 2010, 4:19 pm Posts: 590
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 Is this 1958?
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June 25th, 2014, 12:30 pm |
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samfieldhouse
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Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am Posts: 3324 Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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 Re: Is this 1958?
http://www.cats-citroen.net/home.htmlQuote: 1964 January: Body; dents in the roof over the driver and passenger on all types. Interior; seatbelts are optional. For this the chassis and body have been modified. March: Electric; rear lights with integrated licenseplate light???. April: A round plate with the colour number placed on the firewall. June: Wheels; tubeless tires and modified rims. July: Brakes; reduced diameter line from 6mm to 4.5mm. November: New gearbox ratios for the AZU. December: Doors; front doors are no longer suicide but open at the rear. I guess the simple answer is it's a post December '64 body with a pre '61 bonnet?
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June 25th, 2014, 12:57 pm |
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citroenboat
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Joined: November 11th, 2010, 4:19 pm Posts: 590
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 Re: Is this 1958?
So not "1958 2CV Van,this van is still on the french plates with all the relevant paperwork" as claimed? Thought as much Thought I'd posted this in Flea Market, sorry. 
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June 25th, 2014, 2:28 pm |
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knightley
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Joined: June 19th, 2010, 8:40 pm Posts: 761 Location: Kingswood, S.Glos.
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 Re: Is this 1958?
Have messaged the seller on ebay. Let's see if I get some abuse back. 
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June 25th, 2014, 2:44 pm |
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Dennis
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Joined: March 24th, 2009, 9:18 pm Posts: 248 Location: 15340 Mourjou France
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 Re: Is this 1958?
Indeed it isn't 1958 - perhaps just the bonnet and maybe the vehicle identification plate and paperwork too. The rest of the bodywork looks like a mid-1960s version: window behind the cab, no corrugations in the lower part of the rear sides (a 1963 change), etc. We'll just have to hope it isn't being sold by an I2F member who will post here to explain that really it's all kosher because .....
I think it really was a PO van: they normally had an extra U-section bar put across where the rear "bumpers" go, and this meant that the reflectors had to be mounted a little higher - and you can see that is where they are/were. There are also small bolts on the upper forward-facing part of the cargo section (above the driver's cab) that would have held on the postman's bike-carrier. I suspect the reinforcement for the bike carrier was included years after the bike carriers stopped being fitted.
It's a pity there aren't any pictures of the engine, or the bulkhead, or the dashboard, but it looks as if it hasn't been up-rated to a 602cc motor.
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1964 HY 72 (Type H, campervan) - LHD 1969 AZU 250 (formerly French Post Office van) - LHD 1982 Red Special - RHD 1983 Burgundy/Black Charleston - RHD 2017 Skoda Octavia Estate 1.4 DSG - LHD
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June 25th, 2014, 2:50 pm |
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citroenboat
Firing on two.
Joined: November 11th, 2010, 4:19 pm Posts: 590
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 Re: Is this 1958?
I also messaged him, asked if it had had a shell change, he said no not as far as he knew. So I sent him the gist of young Samual's post and a photo of a '58, his name is Simon btw, but have had no reply so far.... Bids still going on I see...
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June 25th, 2014, 4:20 pm |
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Dennis
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Joined: March 24th, 2009, 9:18 pm Posts: 248 Location: 15340 Mourjou France
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 Re: Is this 1958?
The rear doors are visible at the back of one of the pictures: they have the larger glass windows, not fitted until March 1963 according to Jeroen Cats.
It's a little puzzling that all the bits that would have helped to date it properly aren't shown in the pictures. I will try asking if Simon can post a picture of the engine bay.
_________________ Dennis usually in the Cantal
1964 HY 72 (Type H, campervan) - LHD 1969 AZU 250 (formerly French Post Office van) - LHD 1982 Red Special - RHD 1983 Burgundy/Black Charleston - RHD 2017 Skoda Octavia Estate 1.4 DSG - LHD
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June 25th, 2014, 4:56 pm |
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Tripyrenees
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Joined: December 17th, 2012, 10:03 pm Posts: 966 Location: Luscan, Pyrenees, FRANCE
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 Re: Is this 1958?
Most definitely not a '58 This is a '57 
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June 25th, 2014, 5:13 pm |
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knightley
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Joined: June 19th, 2010, 8:40 pm Posts: 761 Location: Kingswood, S.Glos.
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 Re: Is this 1958?
Response from seller of '58' van:
Hi don't know about the body? Light bar does line up it's the bonnet is only been placed on after it was painted and I'm not that up on citroens all the chassis and engine are correct with all original tags etcetc and it's the 425 cc.
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June 25th, 2014, 11:08 pm |
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Dennis
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Joined: March 24th, 2009, 9:18 pm Posts: 248 Location: 15340 Mourjou France
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 Re: Is this 1958?
I think I'd give him credit for doing a really good paint job, and of course it's quite possible it was a previous owner, and not him, who played around with the paperwork and the identification plate (and presumably the bonnet!).
Personally I don't like 2CVs that are too shiny. But then that's because I can only afford a paintbrush.
_________________ Dennis usually in the Cantal
1964 HY 72 (Type H, campervan) - LHD 1969 AZU 250 (formerly French Post Office van) - LHD 1982 Red Special - RHD 1983 Burgundy/Black Charleston - RHD 2017 Skoda Octavia Estate 1.4 DSG - LHD
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June 26th, 2014, 9:49 am |
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