Do you know what sort of oil these people were using, Ben? A quick look on Google suggests that there may be problems using mineral-based oil. One site reckons that on a molecular level the ethanol in E10 will stop the oil forming a film over bearings, etc. (I've got no idea whether that might be true, I'm afraid - perhaps that shjould be Sean's homework? ). Another site I found related to trying to run outboard motors on E85, and reckoned mineral oil just wouldn't mix with the stuff. Both sites agreed that decent synthetic oils would solve the problem(s). The fact these failures occurred just after filling up may add to the 'not mixing' theory, as they do sound more like a total lack of oil than the mixture problems you had.

No thanks ill stick to 2cv and ive got to tile the kitchen and clean out the rone pipes today


so ill be avoiding both by trawling the web for crap.....

This came up (at length) at the 2cvGB committee meeting. When I take the body off I'll change the fuel lines anyway but apart from that I'm not going to panic.

'incompatible' doesn't mean 'will dissolve instantly'

Bare in mind some of the Belgian racing cars are running on 100% biotethonal and they seem to do just fine with standard carbs.

LPG is the way forward!

No , i don't know but i do use fully synth or at least synth based 2 stroke and most people i know in my immediate circle do now.

Yes that was good to see, didn't know that.
Although it must be different for race cars, constant modifications to suit this and regular rebuilds happening anyway

Interesting, Ken ,off 2cv topic but i put this on a couple of scooter forums, one of the responses so far on the lambretta club GB site so hope it sort of explains why i may come across as a bit of a doom merchant about it on here

"The only time I used shell when coming back from the I O W this year resulted in seized piston on my SX200 std set up about 6 miles after filling, I was only doing 50 mph at the time, resulting in being recovered home, correct 2/stroke mix used and when opening float bowl was definately fuel with oil in there.
Will never use it again. "

A follow up article from some transport minister in the same paper (metro) today says that we won't be moving to E10 anytime soon in the UK as it's still under heavy consultation.
Just in case Sean was worrying ,like

ben,
fixed that for you...