all so here we like to looking to the engine's from them .
so we can us for spa francochamps or Colmarberg and other race's.

Here photos and a video. Was the last race of the season 2009
(Sorry for my english)

http://picasaweb.google.es/amigosdelcit ... ero061209#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLV-cNhVTH0

Nice pics Ivan.



I love that.



I think 3cV racing should come to europe.

Didn't realise Jay Kay was into 'em!

If that was Jay Kay, you wouldn't have a camera left

For those who dont know who jay kay is...

Hes a singer/ songwriter who fights reporters quite a lot.



Now... back to 3cv racing.

Hi, thought it is very cool to see other 2CV racers than those I have viewed in Europe, Fun to see that they have developed quite differently.
I use my meetings and drag race, so I do ike to build so much after a rules as other 2CV races. So I am very interested in the data and dimensions of the intake manifold uses.
I am auto mechanic and can see that it is a very modern way to build them.
How many hp and Nm makes the engine. and what is otherwise made by them, camshaft, exhaust??

Jay Kay is my brother. The race was the last of the category. It's a shame. Lars E the only data on the engines is that it has between 65 and 70 hp.

Finally found some regulations for this:

CITROEN BROKERS ASSOCIATION COMPETITION

Gualeguaychu - Entre Ríos

2010 Technical Regulations

Duration : from January 1, 2010 to December 31, 2010 .

General Provisions

1) This Ordinance shall be interpreted in a totally restrictive, ie , which only allows what is explicitly authorized . Alas permitted changes are for the sole purpose of the announcement , and may not perform other functions
The only valid interpretation will be issued by the technical committee.
If we consider the query made in writing to the federation under the car Entrerriano Argentine Automobile Club . For the purpose of clarifying the doubts of this regulation, which by mandate of the latter will be the highest authority in the interpretation and application of this regulation.
It will not be accepted these rules any appeal orally.
2 ) Anything not specified in these rules must be original works and approved by it.

Definitions:
ORIGINAL : Element of a vehicle provided by the source of the factory or the aftermarket and original component or legitimate.

ORIGINAL OR SIMILAR : Element that meets the definition , material and dimensions of the factory provided Terminal


Art. 1) body

Must be original Citroen 2CV or 3CV , 4-door sedan ( except model IES) , allows the use of aluminum sheet , while preserving their shapes and place of original location , allowing the changes especially in this regulation.
It is obligatory to use the roof of sheet iron or aluminum welded or riveted fiberglass with no less than four 8mm bolts with nuts self-braking at the vertices .
It can eliminate the veers support without altering the hood sides, remove the roof gutters , glove and support board.
Front doors should open up against the wind with their original locks or pin placed on the inside , in operation , but the addition of internal closure belt .
The rear doors must be secured by screws or welding.
The trunk door can lighten or replaced by a fiberglass
also allowed to replace it with a cap should be attached to the body. It allows you to remove the rear lights , the flame front to be replaced with aluminum or the like, not allowed fiberglass or other non- metallic material .


Art. 2) WINDSHIELD

Original Vehicle and compulsory. The glass front doors and rear window can be replaced by clear acrylic (transparent ) or poly carbonate so as to permit the view from the inside or outside the vehicle must be fixed, the windows of the rear doors and side panel can be replaced by acrylic , metal or aluminum.


Art. 3) Capote FRONT FENDER

Should be replaced with a fiberglass tube , it being necessary to remove the bumper. Nothing may protrude from the trunk measures on the sides which must be properly mounted on a support of structural pipe wall 1.6mm to 2mm and may not exceed the following measures : 10mm high by 20mm wide or vice versa, can not protrude more than 200mm from the front of the chassis. The hood " may "bring an opening for entering the carburetor air filter . This may not exceed 200 mm in diameter.


Art. 4) FOOTSWITCH

Free no competition , being free of its location .


Art. 5) ARMCHAIR

Single and free location , and must be fixed to the floor of the vehicle with four 10mm diameter bolts and Grade 5 nuts minimum hardness is mandatory self-braking the headrest which must be part of the structure of the chair.


Art. 6) BRAKE LIGHT

Mandatory two lighthouses should have a 100mm diameter circle or as a cross, red and should be located on both sides in the highest part of the rear window. ( will not be allowed out on track without the proper functioning of these lights) .


Art. 7) ADDRESS

Original zip 2cv models , or ami8 3CV . The steering rods , arms akerman the steering column and steering wheel are free.


Art. 8) INSTRUMENTAL

free type and location is not allowed the use of digital instrumentation . It is instrumental of video cameras (whether digital or not). Not allowed the use of GPS.


Art. 9) FUEL TANK

Original of the original vehicle and its location, permit a reduction in capacity, must have a cap in the filler tube , this must be outside the vehicle with an airtight lid and spill-proof venting system .


Art. 10) CHASSIS

Original factory 2cv models , AMI8 3CV or standard, should be the distance between cross made in both inner edges of the same of 1.54 mts. chassis are allowed so-called hollow . May be reinforced structural pipe freely with sheet iron or maintaining its original height.


Art. 11) SUSPENSION ARMS

Front Axle : Must be factory original 2CV models , AMI8 3CV or can not be extended, allowing you to change the inclination of the bolt shaft end . It will strengthen them externally with the addition of tin or iron plates of the masses and wheel bearings are free.
It allows the use of plates to correct the alignment . The gauge will measure at least 1450mm and a maximum of 1550mm .
Rear axle: Must be original factory models 2CV , AMI 3CV or 8, can not be extended. plates will be allowed to correct the alignment. The measure will gauge of 1450mm and a minimum and a maximum of 1550mm .
The measurement gauge is measured in both axles, the outer lips of both tires.
It allows the use of a stabilizer bar axle which may be adjustable free location .


Art 12) SHOCK ORES

They may be in its original location, allowing the installation of standing shocks on both axles (front and rear ), free your position from any standard car manufactured locally.
Should be a wheel , not allowing the use of pressurized with external casing .


Art. 13) SPRING SUSPENSION AND TACHO

Must be original in its quantity and location of the models may be 2cv , 3CV or AMI8 .


Art. 14) BRAKES

2cv original factory , or AMI8 3CV to the rear wheels, allowing lighten the bells. It allows the installation of disc brakes on front wheels to replace the original bells respecting the original location , should be discs and caliper car national series , the diameter of the disks may not exceed the bells. The master cylinder may be open to an inside diameter of an inch at most , allowing the double pump circuit or single circuit only foundry . NO COMPETITION . ( if you use disc brake , you can not use competition brake pads ).


Art. 15) TIRES

Free sheet steel , rolled rim 13 allowing four holes.


Art. 16) covered

Slick of domestic manufacture.


Art. 17) gearboxes

Original factory or AMI8 3CV models . In four gears and reverse binding. It is forbidden to vary the gear ratios and differential , as well as the limited slip differential use or locked . It reinforces the turret of the shifter. It allows the housing and turning machine direct effect of putting retention . gas discharges are allowed in differential and housing. welded rings are permitted , the brakes are optional Synchronized .
Transmission:
Powertrain Demultipli - up
total cation
The 1st - 0165 19 ( direct ) 14 (2nd Quad ) 13 ( reducer)
27 (1st Quad ) 31 ( semicincr. 1a and ma ) 25 ( forwarding )

The 2nd - 0323 19 ( direct ) 23 (4a Quad ) 13 ( reducer)
27 (1st Quad ) 26 ( 2nd loco ) 25 ( forwarding )

The 3rd - 0520 13 ( reducer)
25 ( forwarding )

The 4th - 0703 19 (direct)
27 (1st Quad )
March
back - 0165 19 ( direct ) 14 (3rd Quad ) 13 ( reducer)
27 (1st Quad ) 31 ( semicincr. 1a and ma ) 25 ( forwarding )

Demtiplicacion without mating pinion and crown.
pinion -crown ratio : 8 / 31 = 0258


Art. 18) TREE DRIVE

Free


Art. 19) MINIMUM WEIGHT

The minimum weight of the machine with pilot helmet and the conditions under which each test completed , will be 600kg .


Art. 20) CLUTCH

Disc and original plate of the vehicle, replacing reinforcing plate springs or box to use simple diaphragm . The drive cable is free.


Art. 21) ENGINE BLOCK O CARTER

Original produced domestically , in case of breakage can be welded . The measure of support between 198.00 mm cylinder , but less than 0.00 mm 0.2 mm . drilling is permitted to correct distribution point behind the box on, is allowed to place drawsheets crankshaft bearings and camshaft as super . The diameter of the internal support of shirts will be 83mm .


Art. 22) CYLINDERS

Standard domestic manufacture and series . Must respect the following measure: 74mm.De diameter. For career 70mm , the distance between supports must be machined with a tolorencia 99.45 mm plus or minus 0.05 mm in diameter , the exterior of the skirt of the jacket shall be of 82mm , with 82.5mm flange . The diameter posts should give a capacity of 301.05cm3 . Maximum.


Art. 23) PISTONS

Standard domestic manufacture and series . The distance from the center of the pin to the upper edge machining is 34.6 mm with a tolerance of plus / minus 0.05 mm. Its weight shall be reduced to 0.260 kg.


Art. 24) CYLINDER COVER

In 3CV of mass production . It measures 40x32mm respect the exhaust and intake 44x30m . These measures were taken in a cross. It must respect the forms of the intake and exhaust tubes with bulbs , and angles of curvature factory original . filler material is prohibited . It allows the measurements jammed inside 33mm intake . But a tolerance of 0.5 mm. 30mm Max . The caps must be factory original form as well as the angles of support , admission 30 and 45 degrees are allowed escape polishing. In tubes that measures should be polished intake tube and exhaust 70cm3 85cm3 for tops that do not have polished the pipes, have a tolerance for admission 75cm3 92cm3 exhaust . You can lower the manifold supports for the airspace in the tubes polished. It allows the use of washers on the support of the shirt, the washer may not exceed the inside diameter of the support, its thickness is free as well as the material. It allows the repair of the threads through inserts. The combustion chamber from the support of the shirt to the sky will cover at least 57cm3 . All these measures were taken with oil 2t and measurement took place with the spark plugs and valves used in competition. Compression ratio 8,5:1 .


Art. 25) VALVES

Standard 3 horsepower motor of domestic manufacture and serial number must observe the following measures, admission to the head diameter 39.8 mm and a maximum of 40.6 mm, exhaust 34.0 mm and a maximum of 34.5 mm , length the same maximum : 88.5 Mm admission . 87.0 mm exhaust . super measures are allowed in the stems and guides. Do not allow the use of special valves for competition.


Art. 26) VALVE SPRINGS

Free


Art. 27) VALVE DISHES

Standard 3CV original engine


Art. 28) BALANACINE S AND VALVE ROD

Standard 3CV original engine


Art. 29) dumper

Standard domestic manufacture and serial number. empastillado are allowed to harden. The use of roller tappets . Their minimum weight is 40grs


Art. 30) VALVE GUIDES

Free Material original shapes and sizes , length 47mm intake and 42mm exhaust . It enables to lock these guides.


Art. 31) CRANKSHAFT AND CONNECTING RODS

3CV original . Not allow replacement of the bearings by bearings of any kind. The original timing gear . Carrera 70.00mm . more tolerant least 0.05 mm 0.15 mm . 128mm crank length less 0.00 more than 0.03 mm ( measured between centers). Minimum weight bearing gear and 6.800 kg


Article 32 ) CAMSHAFT

Height and cross free. The gear must be original , allowing secondary gear out and put concealer.


Art. 33) VALVE OPENING

7mm Maximum admission to both escape. The technical committee measured the opening with the light valve with the end of the competition.


Art. 34) PISTON PIN

Standard factory. As super is permitted . The minimum weight is 0,065 kg.


Art. 35) FLYWHEEL

Original 3CV . Minimum weight 7kg


Art. 36) MULTLIPE intake and exhaust

3CV standard . bottom hole at the base of 1.90 mm maximum carburetor . can not cover or add materials. Admission 27mm x 42mm . Escape 34mm x 42mm . The measurement window in the multlipe 34mm . Maximum. central hole diameter of 36mm multlipe . It eliminates the heating pipes admission. It allows the use of asbestos in the inlet and the use of air defendants to multlipes .


Art. 37) CARBURETOR FLANGE

Free material . Must have in its center hole diameter of 35mm. more tolerant - less than 0.05 mm perfectly round and cylindrical. maximum total thickness of 11mm WITH BOTH BOARDS . Your tolerance more - less 0.00 mm.


Art. 38) CARBURETOR

Original 3CV , the choke butterfly and shaft may eliminarser . The carburetor should be standard on the exterior , interior free , throat diameter of 34.5 mm maximum ( means throat, from its base to the top of the accelerator at full throttle opening). If the throat is in the limit of maximum extent , this must be Perfet cylindrical , should be below the limit will have a tolerance of 0.3 mm. It jammed allow the throat to restore its extent, the layered material is free, the location and position.


Art 39) NAFTA PUMP

Original 3CV or 2cv . It lets you install sink vessel vapors.


Art. 40) AIR FILTER

It may include original box filter holder , the filter element (filter ) is original.


Art. 41) ON

Distributor 3CV , platinum system , allows the strap 2ble forbidden any electronic system , standard coil , location free, free-floating capacitor free, free candles . It allows you to fix or eliminate centrifugal counterweights avanece original.


Art. 42) MOTOR STARTING

Original 2cv , 3CV or pocisión ami8 in original binding operation.


Article 43) BATTERY

12 volts , amperage free. Its location off with perfect fit in the car. It is obligatory to use kill switches within reach of the driver and the auxiliary track.


Art. 44 ) OIL COOLER

Standard factory and its original location.


Art. 45) OIL PUMP

Standard 3 horsepower motor . The oil filter , the sieve plate antiemulsora are optional. Acito deposit reclaimer compulsory to use.


Art. 46) REFRIGERAC ION ENGINE

original defendants . It allows you to cancel the exit of the belt and the heater , as well as drilling the baffle inside the cylinder head to improve air flow.


Art. 47) COOLING FAN

9 Standard plastic blades. It allows up to 35mm cutting blades . Measured from the center of the blade . You need to use the original turbine cover .


Art. 48) roll cage

Mandatory use , located within the bodywork and allowed to extend forward ( front axle protruding from the body) , its design is free, must be attached to the chassis of the car with no less than three 7mm bolts per patabanda supporting or failing welded . The cage must consist of at least a central arch with vertical studs and floor to ceiling beams to lateral horizontal lateral (front and back of the driver 's compartment ) and cross at the top and bottom . The pipes that form the main structure of the cage, should be 38mm in diameter and 2mm wall minimum. 3mm diameter holes to check its thickness. The pipes which are secondary reinforcements ( these are all different from the spout of the main structure ) should have a minimum diameter of 25mm and 2mm wall. The affixing of pipes under the floor of the car. At the height of the front doors must carry a cross along the side of the door as minimum and medium panel high minimum for side impact protection . Beneath the cross at ground level of the car, must be placed one additional pipe connecting the vertical tubes mounted on which the cross. Should be added two pipes (one on each side) attaching the frame member with the knot front of the cage. Optional is the placement of a horizontal crossbar for the binding of these pipes.

Art 48) a) (Annex) roll cage

The seating plans pipes emerging from the knot of the cage to the front chassis design will be free or form , unable to overcome the line cilindro.será covers mandatory that each barrel contains only one side support from the flame arrester to the chassis and a single horizontal reinforcement to their union , this is optional

Art. 49) SEAT BELTS

Harness mandatory use at least four bands ( two shoulders and waist 2 ) must be secured to the floor and cage with 10mm screws . Nut brake.


Art. 50) fire extinguisher

Required, 1kg capacity . Enabled for category B and C fires It must be firmly secured to the floor of the car and the scope of the pilot.


Art. 51) BALLAST

Only carry ballast to reach the minimum 600kg weight . Must be located in the trunk compartment firmly bolted with at least two 12mm diameter bolts .


Art. 52) TOWING HOOK

It is mandatory, or if visible and in no way shall be at the front or rear of the car

Art. 53) NETWORK SECURITY

Mandatory use , subject to the roll cage . It may not be of elastic elements must be rigid and not allow slippage. In case of non- recognized brand , its approval shall be approved by the technical committee of the category.


Art. 54) LIGHT RAIN OR LAND

Should be installed as the brake light and will glow amber.


Art. 55) SACA STEERING WHEEL

Quick and simple so that action can be operated by the auxiliary track if necessary.


Art. 56) CLOTHING IA DRIVERS

DIVER flame retardant : mandatory for use in tests and skills tests . These would be clean fabric fire resistant. They must include their respective approval certifying its use in automotive skills , we recommend the simultaneous use of the same material underwear (stockings , ski masks , shirts and gloves).

HELMET: The mandatory use of the integral type, and must have approvals and approvals of origin attesting to their suitability for use in automotive skills , according to the compliance with the standards established by the CDA of the ACA.


THE ELEMENTS CONTAINED IN ART . REGULATION OF 54 precent are inspected by the Commissariat TECHNICAL HOME BEFORE THE CATEGORY OF ACTIVITIES IN THE TRACK OF ALL THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE CATEGORY .

It is expressly stated that the Association of Citroën COMPETITION , THROUGH THE CURATORS OF TECHNICAL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REMOVE AND RETAIN ANY ELEMENT OF VEHICLE TO BE REVISED AND TESTED EXHAUTIVAMENTE , WITHDRAWAL WITHOUT ANY MEDIA .

Ah, it makes perfect sense