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Russell
Firing on two.
Joined: November 29th, 2008, 10:05 pm Posts: 9259 Location: West Sussex, U.K.
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 Bodge jobs.
This evening I've been welding a 2cv for a guy i know who lives near me. The car was fairly recently worked on by a local 2CV specialist, who apparently do restorations and specialise in Citroen 2cvs. The car looks like it's been repaired by some old fella in a shed with nothing more than an Aldi gasless MIG and probably some saltwater too. As you may be aware, from the factory, 2cvs were almost entirely spotwelded together, so when it comes to repairing them, they should really be repaired in the same way, especially if you are a 'restoration specialist'. This car has had it's rear inner wings seam welded in, badly, and two floors put in place, seam welded to sills that were probably beyond it at the time, andseam welded (badly) to the rear seat box. The inner wings were never painted and are bare metal, which has obviously rusted, and the sills are now rotten along with the rear seat box section. If this car had been done by some old boy just tinkering, then fair enough, but it was done by somebody who makes a living repairing cars, supposedly, a specialist. The result is that it's now going to be a case of try to work around their bodges or pretty much do all the work again (at great cost to the owner), neither is really acceptable to all parties, and the whole job wouldnt need doing if the goons had done it right the first time!
Sorry, Rant over, It just hacks me off these cowboys call themselves specialists...
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February 10th, 2009, 10:15 pm |
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Hamstall
Firing on two.
Joined: January 18th, 2009, 7:10 pm Posts: 117 Location: The 'Nham
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 Re: Bodge jobs.
Cowboys in all trades mate!
If you think the car trade's bad, you should try pianos!
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February 10th, 2009, 10:28 pm |
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Tim2cv
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Joined: December 8th, 2008, 4:08 pm Posts: 806 Location: Burton-upon-Trent
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haha, we have specialists like that in derby too! (now under a new name, same people, and same place) i got all the past 10 yrs history they had for my D*lly when i got it but not once did it mention plating over rusty floors or using rubber dounuts to stop the plate rattling on the existing rusty floor, or that seam sealer was a substitute for doing anything!
there are always people about who bodge. me for one but only my own things and where it cant be helped but its a shame we cant always help others or stop it happeneing up front! you live and learn!
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February 10th, 2009, 10:29 pm |
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Neil
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Joined: November 28th, 2008, 11:14 pm Posts: 8797 Location: Cornwall, UK
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 Re: Bodge jobs.
Russell wrote: This evening I've been welding a 2cv for a guy i know who lives near me. The car was fairly recently worked on by a local 2CV specialist, who apparently do restorations and specialise in Citroen 2cvs. i wonder who that was! 
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February 10th, 2009, 10:32 pm |
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Russell
Firing on two.
Joined: November 29th, 2008, 10:05 pm Posts: 9259 Location: West Sussex, U.K.
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Tim2cv wrote: haha, we have specialists like that in derby too! (now under a new name, same people, and same place) i got all the past 10 yrs history they had for my d*lly when i got it but not once did it mention plating over rusty floors or using rubber dounuts to stop the plate rattling on the existing rusty floor, or that seam sealer was a substitute for doing anything!
there are always people about who bodge. me for one but only my own things and where it cant be helped but its a shame we cant always help others or stop it happeneing up front! you live and learn! Yeah, thats the thing, you and me are amateurs who do it for fun (?), but if you're in the business of actually taking money in exchgange for 'restoring' cars I'd expect it to be as good as when it left the factory, not hashed up and only likely to last a year or two... Hamstall wrote: If you think the car trade's bad, you should try pianos!
I've never welded a piano, any tips? 
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February 10th, 2009, 10:34 pm |
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Neil
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Joined: November 28th, 2008, 11:14 pm Posts: 8797 Location: Cornwall, UK
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Russell wrote: exchgange not hashed up
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February 10th, 2009, 10:41 pm |
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Russell
Firing on two.
Joined: November 29th, 2008, 10:05 pm Posts: 9259 Location: West Sussex, U.K.
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Yeah yeah, I need to learn how to spell/type.... F.R.I.E.N.D.S, ok, that's a start. 
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February 10th, 2009, 10:48 pm |
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Neil
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Joined: November 28th, 2008, 11:14 pm Posts: 8797 Location: Cornwall, UK
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Russell wrote: F.R.I.E.N.D.S, ok, that's a start.  
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February 10th, 2009, 10:53 pm |
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Jono
Firing on two.
Joined: December 8th, 2008, 5:58 pm Posts: 1404 Location: Near Matlock, Derbyshire
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Russell wrote: This evening I've been welding a 2cv for a guy i know who lives near me. The car was fairly recently worked on by a local 2CV specialist, who apparently do restorations and specialise in Citroen 2cvs. The car looks like it's been repaired by some old fella in a shed with nothing more than an Aldi gasless MIG and probably some saltwater too. As you may be aware, from the factory, 2cvs were almost entirely spotwelded together, so when it comes to repairing them, they should really be repaired in the same way, especially if you are a 'restoration specialist'. This car has had it's rear inner wings seam welded in, badly, and two floors put in place, seam welded to sills that were probably beyond it at the time, andseam welded (badly) to the rear seat box. The inner wings were never painted and are bare metal, which has obviously rusted, and the sills are now rotten along with the rear seat box section. If this car had been done by some old boy just tinkering, then fair enough, but it was done by somebody who makes a living repairing cars, supposedly, a specialist. The result is that it's now going to be a case of try to work around their bodges or pretty much do all the work again (at great cost to the owner), neither is really acceptable to all parties, and the whole job wouldnt need doing if the goons had done it right the first time!
Sorry, Rant over, It just hacks me off these cowboys call themselves specialists... How silly.
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Hamstall
Firing on two.
Joined: January 18th, 2009, 7:10 pm Posts: 117 Location: The 'Nham
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