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 Track rod end casting holds ball of steering arm 
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Post Track rod end casting holds ball of steering arm
Hi All
I've taken the steering and hubs apart to clean paint and renew bearings. Of course I've mixed up all the bits!
Any one help with which handed thread of the track rod end goes on which side?
As a side note - are the Burton type adjusters worth it vs the original clamps and tubes? And do the Hub nuts really need to be 20gazillion NM ? Air gun made no impression & bent a long bar trying to undo them had to resort to drilling and breaking them in half - hub threads luckily survived the ordeal.

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August 19th, 2021, 2:29 pm
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Post Re: Track rod end casting holds ball of steering arm
That hub nut torque is mental isn't it! Took me a while to get them off too. I had to use heat. I suspect its because of the design of the car having those inboard brakes, so any potential accidental looseness in those nuts could mean no brakes perhaps.


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Post Re: Track rod end casting holds ball of steering arm
The reason why the 2CV was late to the UK market was because of those in-board brakes. Until the law was changed in 1953 they were illegal. As you say, a failure of the connection between the brake at the gearbox end of the driveshaft, and the hub end of the driveshaft, would mean zero brakes on that one corner. I have the feeling that in-board brakes are now illegal internationally, for that very reason.

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August 20th, 2021, 11:12 pm
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Oh really? I've never heard that before Jonathan, very interesting.
I do love the inboard brakes on these. So unaffected by moisture, and changing the pads is hilariously easy.


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Post Re: Track rod end casting holds ball of steering arm
Jaguar had inboard brakes too on the e-type. And some trucks seem to have had them. For the nuts i had the socket on it with a 1,5 meter bar pushed on tension and than hit it with a hammer some 1/3rth from the nut up. Got loose rather well.


August 31st, 2021, 4:45 pm
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Post Re: Track rod end casting holds ball of steering arm
The Rover P6 of 1963 had inboard rear disc brakes, though the front discs were conventionally fitted at the hub.

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August 31st, 2021, 10:46 pm
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Jaguar had inboard brakes on quite a few models I think, it was a bit of a trademark feature for them.
I was looking after an ancient mk8 a while ago and that 'may' have had inboard drums but I can't remember for sure now.
Definitely the E-type, also even the XJS, XJ6 and XJ12.
Some owners convert them to outboard but others like the inboard.
A Mk2 I look after (wedding car) has outboard discs all round. Isn't that super advanced on a car of that age. I still see brand new cars with drum brakes on the rear!


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The Citroen D-model and the SM also has inboard brakes. Great stuff.

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September 12th, 2021, 3:00 am
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Post Re: Track rod end casting holds ball of steering arm
The Jaguar had indeed inboard brakes on many models, late 80's if I remember correct. And from that, also Maserati had them on Khamsin and Quattroporte III. Reason was, those models had rear suspension from the Jag...

Many doesn't know, the Jag used driveshaft as upper suspension arm, very unique solution I think. Nice compact structure, and light on the wheel side...


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Thats very cool


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