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Author:  indian46 [ August 4th, 2014, 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Possible gearbox trouble.

Hello, (again),

Gearbox query this time. (ODTAA!)

My 1986 2CV which I bought last year, shudders when pulling away. (Did from day one of ownership). There is also a slight vibration at a certain slowish speed, which I thought was a problem with the carb/ignition, but I now think it is mechanical.

I have checked the drive-shafts and engine/g/box mountings.

I replaced the engine, (old one had a nasty knock), together with a complete new clutch, but it didn't cure the vibration.

It's not a big problem other than I remember reading that such a vibration could spell g/box woes. If so, what sort of woes are we talking about. Is it checkable in situ.

I have a spare box, but before changing, is there any advice?

Taeverso,

Chris

Author:  Vasil Ami [ August 4th, 2014, 7:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible gearbox trouble.

Could be a damaged shaft that goes from the box into the engine...

Author:  Jonathan [ August 5th, 2014, 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible gearbox trouble.

Could just be clutch judder. Modern replacement clutches are made from shitty stuff and can't cope with transfering the massive 29bhp and torque from a 2CV engine to the gearbox. I've had two Valeo clutches fitted and both have developed judder.

Author:  ken [ August 5th, 2014, 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible gearbox trouble.

But, was the spigot bearing replaced when the clutch was done, also was there any sign of gear oil leaking forwards along the input shaft?
A worn spigot bearing or oil contamination of the friction material will both cause judder.



Jonathan wrote:
Could just be clutch judder. Modern replacement clutches are made from shitty stuff and can't cope with transfering the massive 29bhp and torque from a 2CV engine to the gearbox. I've had two Valeo clutches fitted and both have developed judder.

Author:  samfieldhouse [ August 5th, 2014, 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible gearbox trouble.

More revs as you lift your foot off the clutch. Mine judders at low rpm.

Author:  indian46 [ August 5th, 2014, 6:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible gearbox trouble.

Thanks for the replies.

There is no oil leakage from the output shaft, and when I changed the clutch I checked for play at the shaft end: I don't remember much movement there at all.

Other than the shuddering, the box is quiet and the syncros are fine.

Ken, how would I access a worn bush: how much play is 'too much'.

Thanks again.

Chris

Author:  Sean [ August 5th, 2014, 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Possible gearbox trouble.

at a couple of ££ just replace it with any "Oiltite" type bearing they are widley available as its a standard size the oil seal is also the same as the output shaft of all those Hondas and Fondas ( cheap Chinese clones) engines that power everything from garden machinery to small carts )

or you can just get it from the parts suppliers with a healthy "convenience" tax

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