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Author:  Harley [ April 12th, 2013, 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  180mm Clutch...

I know Joolz has done some research on this, many moons ago...
Thing is I may be getting a new flywheel machined up so I am thinking of fitting a larger clutch and pressure plate... Anyone know what 180mm clutch plate would fit a 2cv spline!?
My current setup is LNA gearbox with a Visa bellhousing and visa input shaft.
Here's a little inspiration!
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Cheers,

Harley

Author:  Pony [ April 12th, 2013, 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 180mm Clutch...

Hi Harley

i have a feeling Ax and saxo 1.2 and 1.4 clutches have the same spline as 2cv

i will try to find out tomorrow

pony

Author:  Harley [ May 5th, 2013, 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 180mm Clutch...

http://sailauto.en.gasgoo.com/auto-products/1651539.html
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This could be an option!
Its from a Cherry QQ !? :?
180mm plate with 18 teeth spline...

EDIT:
Nissan Prarie Mk1 M10 All 1982 1988 1.5 Petrol 180mm 18 Splines 1982>1985
Nissan Sunny B11 All 1981 1985 1.5 Petrol 180mm 18 Splines

Anyone confirm or deny that these would fit!?

Harley
PS: Pony confirmed that the AX spline is .3-.5mm larger than 2cv therefore it doesn't fit! :(

Author:  Harley [ May 5th, 2013, 4:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 180mm Clutch...

More research!

Cluch sizes are often written 180*125*18*20.6
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Outer Diameter: 180
Inner Diameter: 125
Number of Splines: 18
Spline Outer Diameter: 20.6

So I discovered that...
Kia Pride clutch is:
Diameter: 180mm
Number of Splines: 18
Spline Inner Diameter: 17mm
Spline Outer Diameter: 19.2mm (others state 19.1mm)

Pug 206:
Outer Diameter: 181.5
Inner Diameter: 127.4
Number of Splines: 18*1.0583*37.5°
Spline Outer Diameter: 19.5

SUZUKI ST90
Outer Diameter: 180
Inner Diameter: 125
Number of Splines: 18
Spline Outer Diameter: 20.3

Citroen C2
Outer Diameter: 180
Number of Splines: 18
Spline Inner Diameter: 118.3mm
Spline Outer Diameter: 20.8

Can anyone measure an A series input shaft for me please!?

Cheers,

Harley

Author:  2CViking [ May 5th, 2013, 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 180mm Clutch...

What is wrong with a 2cv clutch :roll:

Author:  lpgo [ May 5th, 2013, 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 180mm Clutch...

2CViking wrote:
What is wrong with a 2cv clutch :roll:



And it burns, burn, burns,
The ring of fir, the ring of fire.

Johny cash

Author:  Russell [ May 5th, 2013, 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 180mm Clutch...

Ha! Most of our cars are more like One piece at a time!

Author:  Joolz [ May 5th, 2013, 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 180mm Clutch...

I'm still happy to stick with the 2cv one personally, when it's working properly it seems to be up to the job, and as Ken has pointed out before, it's best that the weakest link is something relatively cheap.

The secondhand Valeo that went in when the BM was first fitted lasted over 10,000 before the center splines broke out, and then the friction material was still OK, no sign of it slipping on the 0-70 on youtube.

The clutch that replaced it, a lesser brand, it is now slipping badly, but it may well be that the gear oil leak has reached it.

I'll be replacing it with another Valeo, but will probably add a bit of weld to the center.

Author:  ken [ May 6th, 2013, 12:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 180mm Clutch...

Or maybe this one... :)

"You gotta know when to hold 'em,
Know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away
Know when to run..."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... q-A#t=155s


Russell wrote:
Ha! Most of our cars are more like One piece at a time!

Author:  toomany2cvs [ May 6th, 2013, 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 180mm Clutch...

Joolz wrote:
The secondhand Valeo that went in when the BM was first fitted lasted over 10,000 before the center splines broke out, and then the friction material was still OK


I'd suspect that a heavier-duty (less light-duty?) clutch isn't only bigger diameter, but heftier metal in the centre, too, so whilst the friction material wasn't the problem, upgrading would resolve the issue you did have, too.

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