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Author:  blackjack [ February 17th, 2012, 1:36 am ]
Post subject:  Track Road Arm Metallurgy

I recently bought a new pair of track rod arms from the leading 2CV parts specialist. I was preparing them for paint by grinding off all the flash lines and then smoothing and polishing them - makes them look nicer too. I noticed that they were MUCH softer than the last pair I did some years ago - almost like they are just plain mild steel.

They were so soft that I didn't bother with a grinder in the end, just used files and 40 through 240 grit paper.

Have they always been this soft - my experience on original Citroen parts and 1930's Ford forgings are that they are a lot tougher to prep for paint and chrome.

Author:  subarupete [ February 17th, 2012, 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Track Road Arm Metallurgy

Perhaps they havent had any heat treatment?

Author:  blackjack [ February 17th, 2012, 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Track Road Arm Metallurgy

Perhaps only the ball ends have been treated on these pattern parts and the whole thing was case hardened on original parts?

Author:  Sean [ February 17th, 2012, 11:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Track Road Arm Metallurgy

dont think even the balls are treated

the Ami 6 set that are now on the blue car show no effects of wear but do show signs of pitting corrosion that id expect to see on a high carbon steel

guess the older ones were just a better quality steel

any recent car has a ball end that is soft enough to mark with a file easily

Author:  Joolz [ February 17th, 2012, 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Track Road Arm Metallurgy

Hi, if you read the bit in my thread about the balljoint conversion, I cut the arms lengthwise with a hacksaw, they didn't seem very hard to me. I've no idea whether they were original or pattern parts though.

Author:  Harley [ February 18th, 2012, 7:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Track Road Arm Metallurgy

Joolz wrote:
Hi, if you read the bit in my thread about the balljoint conversion, I cut the arms lengthwise with a hacksaw, they didn't seem very hard to me. I've no idea whether they were original or pattern parts though.


The hardness of these parts is something that I will be encountering myself soon.
The plan is to machine the ball end down to an M8 and cut a thread into it, then fit a reducer and M 14 X 1.25 left hand thread, male rod end.

As you could imagine the M 14 X 1.25 male rod end was hard to come by. I order it from India via email, so dodgy, but they did arrive, $US110 later, most of which was shipping...

So, can they be machined in a lathe?

Harley

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