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samfieldhouse
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Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am Posts: 3324 Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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 Axel bolts
So today I'm going to remove my front axel bolts and re-tighten them. I want to remove this clonking/shaking/tapping that's developed in the steering and when breaking/accelerating.
My question is, do I grease the bolts?
It's just that since I fitted the new shocks and greased the bolts, theyre always working loose.
So, to grease, or not to grease?
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September 21st, 2010, 11:54 am |
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602
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Joined: July 21st, 2010, 7:12 pm Posts: 859 Location: Chatenet, France
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 Re: Axel bolts
Clean all the rust off as there will be lots. If they are waisted in the middle [very common] fit new ones. A bit of copperslip never goes amiss and as these have lock tabs on them it shouldn't be a problem. Don't be tempted to do all four at once as its a pain to line the axle back up from underneath.
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September 21st, 2010, 11:58 am |
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samfieldhouse
Firing on two.
Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am Posts: 3324 Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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 Re: Axel bolts
Wow - I love this site Cheers for that. What kind of bolts are they?
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September 21st, 2010, 12:01 pm |
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602
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Joined: July 21st, 2010, 7:12 pm Posts: 859 Location: Chatenet, France
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 Re: Axel bolts
They are these http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/axle-tube ... p-410.htmlThey are high tensile so don't be tempted to fit ordinary steel bolts as you might find yourself sitting on the floor when they snap.
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September 21st, 2010, 12:09 pm |
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Norman
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Joined: May 11th, 2009, 3:17 pm Posts: 198
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 Re: Axel bolts
Axle bolts shouldn't work lose if the lock washer is fitted? http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/lock-wash ... p-192.htmlCopper slip is always worth applying.
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September 21st, 2010, 12:22 pm |
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samfieldhouse
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Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am Posts: 3324 Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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 Re: Axel bolts
cheers chaps. Just got the first one out, no struggle. It's not waisted either. The lock washer is in place. I don't have any copper slip to hand, can I use normal grease? (duckhams)
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September 21st, 2010, 12:48 pm |
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toomany2cvs
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Joined: December 26th, 2008, 9:40 pm Posts: 3332 Location: Surrounded by 2cvs...
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samfieldhouse wrote: I don't have any copper slip to hand Buy some. Buy a tub, not the tube - it's MUCH cheaper that way. Use a little dab on ANY AND EVERY nut, bolt, screw you ever fit - unless there's a very good reason not to, such as loctite needed on the flywheel bolts.
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September 21st, 2010, 12:51 pm |
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ken
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Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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 Re: Axel bolts
sam, any grease will do the job of lubricating and protecting the axle bolt threads. Don't forget to coat the entire length of the bolts with grease to protect them, as water can get into the anti-crush tubes on some chassis designs and the bolts will rust... ken. samfieldhouse wrote: cheers chaps. Just got the first one out, no struggle. It's not waisted either. The lock washer is in place. I don't have any copper slip to hand, can I use normal grease? (duckhams)
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September 21st, 2010, 4:27 pm |
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J-dub
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Joined: April 24th, 2010, 10:01 am Posts: 5733 Location: Location Location
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 Re: Axel bolts
ahh you got round to it sam, what happend to mechanical monday then ?!
i need to do mine at some point,
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September 21st, 2010, 4:28 pm |
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Sean
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Joined: April 22nd, 2009, 11:06 pm Posts: 3684 Location: Ecosse
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 Re: Axel bolts
axle bolts are often "butted" ie the areas of maximum strain are thicker so they are thicker at the heads and at the start of the thread
this is normal and has nothing to do with the bolts "necking" or straining and so should not be regarded as scrap.
deeply pitted with rust would be of much more concern and those should be replaced
take it easy with the torque as the new, or newly greased thread can be overtightened its a common mistake to try to put a bolt back with the same ammount of strain and effort that was used to loosen it, these only need 36ftlb 5kgfm and as they are greased that will be slightly more than factory setting, over tighten and they do snap and are a bit of a pain to get out
Sean ps its also a good idea to make a special socket for them, a 17mm single hex impact socket, grind or file down the start of it. most sockets have a radiussed area to allow it to locate on a bolt or nut easier, as the axle tube bolts have a shallow head this means often less than a mm of contact on the corners and it can slip off with nuckle skinning potential
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September 21st, 2010, 5:52 pm |
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