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| Author: | samfieldhouse [ January 2nd, 2010, 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
I've seen these at various meetings and the L2B but never actually seen a car fitted with them - unless possibly the current 2cv City showcar  Has anybody experiance of them or heard any good reviews about them? http://www.gardnercars.co.uk/index.html |
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| Author: | spanners [ January 2nd, 2010, 5:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
They just look like they add extra unsprung weight to me without any real benefit-kingpins are so easy to change/maintain, why bother. Also, technically, they're an MOT failure straight from the off as they've been welded and you're not supposed to have modified suspension/steering components.* *I know I'm a hypochrite as I have modified/welded suspension arms but just a point I thought I'd raise. 
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| Author: | toomany2cvs [ January 2nd, 2010, 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
spanners wrote: Also, technically, they're an MOT failure straight from the off as they've been welded and you're not supposed to have modified suspension/steering components.* *I know I'm a hypochrite as I have modified/welded suspension arms but just a point I thought I'd raise. Oooh, and he's right, too... http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m3s02000204.htm Reasons for Rejection - d. structural repair by welding to a steering linkage component, or signs of excessive heat having been applied |
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| Author: | spanners [ January 2nd, 2010, 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
Indeed, remember what I do for a living 
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| Author: | 2CViking [ January 2nd, 2010, 7:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
toomany2cvs wrote: spanners wrote: Also, technically, they're an MOT failure straight from the off as they've been welded and you're not supposed to have modified suspension/steering components.* *I know I'm a hypochrite as I have modified/welded suspension arms but just a point I thought I'd raise. Oooh, and he's right, too... http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m3s02000204.htm Reasons for Rejection - d. structural repair by welding to a steering linkage component, or signs of excessive heat having been applied Agree. Why reinvent the wheel  If you gease the king pins every 1000 km, they last forever, nearly. 
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| Author: | Russell [ January 2nd, 2010, 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
Those arms are really nasty looking things too, if my welding looked as bad as that I'd be sacked straight away. I've had cars with knackered balljoints before too, so I can't see what problem these solve. Kingpins greased regularly are no problem, and probably quicker to change than four balljoints? |
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| Author: | spanners [ January 2nd, 2010, 7:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
Russell wrote: probably quicker to change than four balljoints? Too bloody right! Besides, if we reinvent everything on a 2CV/derivative to iron out all the perceived "problem" areas, we wouldn't have much 2CV left! Yeeeuch, Lomax (plastic body), galv chassis, ball joints etc Actually, you'd have that Savoia Mehari thing, that's even got 4 stud hubs to give you wheel choice
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| Author: | toomany2cvs [ January 2nd, 2010, 7:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
spanners wrote: Indeed, remember what I do for a living It wouldn't be the first time a tester had claimed something was in the test that wasn't... <grin> |
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| Author: | spanners [ January 2nd, 2010, 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
It's something I get ribbed/slagged off about because of my cut and turned arms. It's normally at an MOT where the testers try and invent things though isn't it?
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| Author: | samfieldhouse [ January 2nd, 2010, 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Has anyone replaced their kingpins with ball joints? |
spanners wrote: They just look like they add extra unsprung weight to me without any real benefit-kingpins are so easy to change/maintain, why bother. Also, technically, they're an MOT failure straight from the off as they've been welded and you're not supposed to have modified suspension/steering components.* *I know I'm a hypochrite as I have modified/welded suspension arms but just a point I thought I'd raise. That's really interesting  I wonder how many people have actually had them fitted? Sounds like a Quote: tell you what love, what you need is.... Russell wrote: Kingpins greased regularly are no problem, and probably quicker to change |
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