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ayjay
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Joined: April 27th, 2012, 6:48 pm
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 Re: mig wire "gas free? Sean wrote: ayjay wrote: thanks for all the replys fellas  i think ill send off for a small reel and give it a try, my mig is only a diy one and its only the hinge so won,t matter about neatness removing the mask is something i wouldnt hav thought of!thanks everyone ill post the results NO! the gas shroud on the torch you still need eye and skin protection more so as it spatters and spits so cover everything you dont want holes burnt in with old floor mats. yes , i didnt mean a mask that you use for eye protection, i meant, as u say the mask on the torch i got arc eye a long time ago-- never again!
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Sean
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Re: mig wire "gas free? " Gas shroud" lets not get in to a right/wrong argument .....but its not a mask. 
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2CViking
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Re: mig wire "gas free? toomany2cvs wrote: 2CViking wrote: Why can't you accept that is works for me But does it? Have you ever cut one of your welds open, to check that it's properly penetrated, and that there's no bubbliness/inclusions/shite inside? Yes it does. Don't need to. Just image the numbers of raid cars I've welded in Australia and from what I know, none of them has fallen apart (soon 15 years) despite doing 10 million corrugations each raid. That is prof enough for me that it works
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ayjay
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Re: mig wire "gas free? seems strange that som think gasless migs are crap this one is well expensive it must be ok surely  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIP-25051-Pro ... 2246wt_970
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ayjay
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Re: mig wire "gas free? Sean wrote: " Gas shroud" lets not get in to a right/wrong argument .....but its not a mask. shroud it is sean
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2CViking
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Re: mig wire "gas free? I bet you that in the future, all the bottle nonsense will dissapear and we all will use gassless only. Haha some people will swallow camels etc.  when the choice is gone forever
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ayjay
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Russell
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Re: mig wire "gas free? 2CViking wrote: I bet you that in the future, all the bottle nonsense will dissapear and we all will use gassless only. Haha some people will swallow camels etc. when the choice is gone forever Yeah, one day people might have to do a second rate job, thankfully today they don't have to struggle with the bullshit because they can buy the correct gear for the job. Nobody who considers themselves a professional should reccomend this shit, any more than fuel cats, ecotek valves, splitfire plugs or snake oil. It is not a process for amateurs who don't fully understand, regardless of how lucky they've been.
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Matt S
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Re: mig wire "gas free? I have to add my thoughts here, just because i have some experience of both gas and non gas welding. I am not a pro welder like Russ and i dont play with cars for a living, its a hobby, but this is what i have concluded. So, this is not advice, its just my own experience...
I originally (when i was 17 years old) used a gas-less SIP brand mig to weld up my dyane and a couple of other cars. Later when i became a bit richer and wiser i bought a decent snap-on/cebora MIG welder.
The results and the ease of use were like night and day, The spatter was less, the penentration was better, it was easier not to blow holes, it was visibly nicer, the wire didnt cost the earth in comparison to normal wire and a gas bottle.
I welded gasless for maybe 2 years, ive welded with proper gas MIG for 16 years now.
Simply put, for me... gas-less is a get you by measure. If you have the choice then always go for proper equipment and get a proper job at the end of it.
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toomany2cvs
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Re: mig wire "gas free? 2CViking wrote: toomany2cvs wrote: 2CViking wrote: Why can't you accept that is works for me But does it? Have you ever cut one of your welds open, to check that it's properly penetrated, and that there's no bubbliness/inclusions/shite inside? Yes it does. Don't need to. Might it be interesting to do so?
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