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banjo
Firing on two.
Joined: June 5th, 2009, 9:17 am
Posts: 747
Location: Staffs & France
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 Re: 180mm Clutch... lpgo wrote: 2CViking wrote: What is wrong with a 2cv clutch  And it burns, burn, burns, The ring of fir, the ring of fire. Johny cash Whats a curry got to do with it 
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| May 6th, 2013, 10:22 am |
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Roy Eastwood
Firing on two.
Joined: February 4th, 2009, 2:52 pm
Posts: 268
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Re: 180mm Clutch... The amount of splines does not mean it fits, you also need to check the different profiles of splines used, old valeo catalogues (maybe new too) are very useful. Harley wrote: More research!
Cluch sizes are often written 180*125*18*20.6
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Outer Diameter: 180
Inner Diameter: 125
Number of Splines: 18
Spline Outer Diameter: 20.6
So I discovered that...
Kia Pride clutch is:
Diameter: 180mm
Number of Splines: 18
Spline Inner Diameter: 17mm
Spline Outer Diameter: 19.2mm (others state 19.1mm)
Pug 206:
Outer Diameter: 181.5
Inner Diameter: 127.4
Number of Splines: 18*1.0583*37.5°
Spline Outer Diameter: 19.5
SUZUKI ST90
Outer Diameter: 180
Inner Diameter: 125
Number of Splines: 18
Spline Outer Diameter: 20.3
Citroen C2
Outer Diameter: 180
Number of Splines: 18
Spline Inner Diameter: 118.3mm
Spline Outer Diameter: 20.8
Can anyone measure an A series input shaft for me please!?
Cheers,
Harley
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| May 7th, 2013, 1:39 pm |
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Harley
Firing on two.
Joined: May 3rd, 2009, 11:40 am
Posts: 816
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
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Re: 180mm Clutch... Roy Eastwood wrote: The amount of splines does not mean it fits, you also need to check the different profiles of splines used, old valeo catalogues (maybe new too) are very useful.
Yes, I've been looking at how to calculate the spline pitch, do you have access to an old valeo catalogue Roy? I have measered an internal clutch spline: 20mm od 18mm id Or within a bees dick. Each top and bottom of spline is close to 1mm Cheers Harley
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samfieldhouse wrote: It is M9 for the shocks yes, the rest I'll check when next i'm underneath her. Ironically, this will be valentines day.
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| May 7th, 2013, 2:11 pm |
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Harley
Firing on two.
Joined: May 3rd, 2009, 11:40 am
Posts: 816
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
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Re: 180mm Clutch... Roy Eastwood wrote: old valeo catalogues (maybe new too) are very useful.
I have followed your lead and come up with this info: Engine Code A06/635,M28,M28/1
Transmission Type Manual Transmission
Transmission Type 4
New Part
Hub Profile 18x17,8x20,3
Diameter 1 [mm] 160
Diameter 2 [mm] 160
Version CP
Number of Teeth 18 No other Citroen 180mm clutch has this profile... they are all 18x18,2x21  I'll keep looking though! Harley
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samfieldhouse wrote: It is M9 for the shocks yes, the rest I'll check when next i'm underneath her. Ironically, this will be valentines day.
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Harley
Firing on two.
Joined: May 3rd, 2009, 11:40 am
Posts: 816
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
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Re: 180mm Clutch... I think I have found it... Clutch kit R1166NClutch plate dimensions (mm): 180 x 18T x 20.3 I can't find the smaller diameter of the spline listed anywhere but it has to be close right!? Found on 1.0 Ltr Suzuki F10A engines from 1980-2000, $AU133 Kit delivered... Guess i'll try then return it if its the wrong spline!... Harley
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samfieldhouse wrote: It is M9 for the shocks yes, the rest I'll check when next i'm underneath her. Ironically, this will be valentines day.
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Pony
Firing on two.
Joined: January 16th, 2010, 5:15 pm
Posts: 212
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Re: 180mm Clutch... I checked splines today
so it is like this
2cv 19 9mm od spline +or- 0.05
Ax saxo 20.1 so small but 0.2 difference is enough for non fit!
pony
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| May 7th, 2013, 8:56 pm |
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Sean
Firing on two.
Joined: April 22nd, 2009, 11:06 pm
Posts: 3684
Location: Ecosse
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Re: 180mm Clutch... can't you just rivet an old 2cv centre boss (Valeo) on to the friction plate of choice?
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| May 7th, 2013, 9:07 pm |
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Harley
Firing on two.
Joined: May 3rd, 2009, 11:40 am
Posts: 816
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
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Re: 180mm Clutch... Sean wrote: can't you just rivet an old 2cv centre boss (Valeo) on to the friction plate of choice? I have wondered aboit this, have heatd it suggested but I have not found anyone who has done it... What do you think Louis is it possible to swap the clutch center boss fon the 2cv clutch to the AX/Saxo one? Cheers Harley
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samfieldhouse wrote: It is M9 for the shocks yes, the rest I'll check when next i'm underneath her. Ironically, this will be valentines day.
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