*1 Geometry? You've tipped the bulkhead backwards by dropping the back end, which pulls the bonnet back.

*2 Relay? Tell us more...

Not mentioned, but how are the ergonomics of your design?
Would anyone other than Bashful, Doc, Dopey or Sneezy be able to sit on the back seat without propping up the roof?

ken

haha! yeah i know...my haynes manuel hasnt arrived yet Ken
the blackplastic cylindrical electrical thing on the front...god knows what it does..condenser ??.don´t think its a distributor!

haha..give us a break these citroens are weird...I´d swear the seats are bolted on with 7mm thread bolts!...can someone confirm that or am I going mad...its not 6 or 8 thats for sure...who the hell uses 7mm bolts...and the first time I ever used a 14mm ratchet was last week also!!

lpgo, ventilated foot wells..I like the idea mate..and loads less welding!

Ignition coil, like so?


Welcome to Citroen's world of M7, M9, M11 thread sizes and spanners measuring 11mm or 14mm A/F, etc...

ken

If it was me, and I don't pretend to know what I'm talking about, I'd have sat the chassis on axle stands with the tie rods disconnected, then sat the wheels and suspension at the regular desired running height, THEN put the shell on minus it's bonnet, front wings, floors, bulkhead, boot floor, rear inner wings, seat box etc (just the bare outer shell) and gone from there. Putting the body lower than the chassis is an odd move, if you want it low you're going to be smashing it into the road fairly often and the chassis is far better at taking that abuse than the bottom of the sills and wings.

I must admit, I'd be ordering some springs and dampers and some turned front arms before hitting the road.

I writed this down 2 pages ago already...

ignition coil! thats the boy, thanks for clarification ken

right ...just to clarify, the body is not lower than the chassis, the absolute lowest part of the car is the front supports for the suspension tubes which are about 4cm lower than the sills. the sills are parallel to the central part of the chassis and about 2cm above them. apart from that I´ve put in some strong stainless tube just inside the sills and slightly lower than the sills just in case for some reason I´m going over a speed bump on a curve for example. It also holds the seat belt mountings etc. ( you can just see it on that last pic)

besides that the rear is already on the bump stops (more of a problem in my opinion), so theoretically its impossible for the chassis or body to go any lower whilst driving or not. the only place where the body is lower than the chassis is where it kicks up at the back...If i had a camera that works all this would become clear.

also distance from chassis to floor at the momentt is about 20cm..which is loads more than the clearance I have on the cortina and that clears all bumps around here without problems.

the theory is to build it on the lowest feasible setting and than adjust with the tie rods afterwards..which is probably going to be up a tad at the back and a smidge down at the front maybe.

the most obvious thing that will be broken off will be the rear bumper which will be 10cm from the floor if I stupidly wanted to mount it as standard..but I won´t

its kind of a work in progress I always build my furniture a bit like this...a loose idea and then see what happens...probably not the most effective way to work it keeps me more interested as its a steep learning curve.

anyway, off with a fresh brain to look at the foot panel!

cheers for all input guys, much appreciated..I´m working alone here so these chats help a lot to visualise problemitas..

correction..just had another look, the body is also lower than the chassis from about 50cm before the rear wheels due to the raking...don´t think thats problem though unless I want to go up curbs head on?

I'd lose the rear bump stops, they can be moved up but you'll have to recess them into the inner wings a bit, or make something new to fit elsewhere. Also I'd sack off the front bump stops or cut most of the rubber away. What sort of ride height are you aiming for? I've had an unchanneled car at 28mm and that's no problem at all, although because I'm old or turning gay or something I run my current car at 40mm, sadly because of the shit 'Frome' chassis which must have been designed by a cretin the shocker mounts are way too low, once I've moved them I'll be able to go down into the 20mm's again.

To make it look really good I'd add a good bit of negative camber to those front arms when you turn them, to really tuck the tyres into the front wheelarches. And you *really* need to turn the arms! We have all run cars low with stock arms but its not right and spoils how it drives.

I really need to do a channeled car, I guess the next time a cheap deuche comes my way I will throw my hat into the ring and build one!

Good work so far though!

20mm - is that gap between chassis and the road - less than 1 inch............

28mm, way more than an inch! Yeah, measured from the front axle bolts to the floor. I'd like closer to 25mm on my current car, but with the rear end closer to the floor which will bring the front up a touch.