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 1989 Blue Celeste "Daisy" 
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OOH,dont do social shit.Causes to many problems.Why would anyone want to tell the whole world about their private life :o .Beats me.

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November 27th, 2012, 10:45 pm
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spanners wrote:
It's cos I've dumped Facebook off again.

We can image link straight from facebook?? D'oh!


November 28th, 2012, 12:51 pm
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Post Re: 1989 Blue Celeste "Daisy"
Hello everyone,

I've been a member on here for a while and finally decided to make myself known with this debut post of my 2nd 2cv, a Bleu Celeste. This car was previously owned by Jon aka Spanners up until August 2013, when I bought it as a project. It has been off the road since 1999 due to a respray that never quite happened.
Anyway here she is:
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As I said this is my 2nd 2cv. My 1st is a 1982 Special I bought in 2009 (separate thread for that to follow shortly) which sadly was written off in march 2013 (Cat-C). Due to a lot of insurance hoo-hah I wasn't entirely sure I was going to get a pay out (I later did and bought it back of the insurance company :D) so at that point I decided to cut my loses and buy another 2cv, which was when I came across this one...

I bought it as a non-runner, having not seen it, on eBay bidding with my brother in Sainsbury's car park, praying that the Wifi would hold out. My reason for doing this, I explained to my rather upset and enraged Mother, as it turned up a week or so later on a car transporter, was so that I wouldn't lose as much money from my old car and put another back on the road. A win-win in my mind. 'But you didn't even ask me' she said. 'I knew you would have said no' I replied. But luckily I managed talk her round with the promise that my old 2cv would be gone 'within a month'. But nearly 2 years on It's still sat outside...

But back to 'Daisy'. Having got my head round my first ever project, with the help of my brother, we started on the engine which had been left outside exposed with the rocker covers off and decided to seize up. We put 9.0:1 pistons and barrels in, cleaned the heads, lapped the valves, took the 123 ignition, yellow coil, and carb off my old car, painted the tin ware and rocker covers up and away it went, albeit with an annoying tapping, which after many subsequent frustrating strip downs and checks has started to fade away (that or I'm becoming used to it :p).

That was about it cost wise. I bought some Halfords spray cans to semi-blend in the paint that hadn't been finished. Finish was ok for a can, colour match not so much. But then I don't know which version of Bleu Celeste is the closest match. Most of the interior was from my other car as were the Michelin tyres. I managed to buy some shocks from a company just before they went bust. Other items such as rear bumper over riders and rear mud guards, new roof, new clutch, new (continental) lights etc. helped to keep the overall cost of the car right down.

So recently I have finally had the confidence to book it in for its MOT which has happened today and I'm thrilled to say it has passed with the continental headlights being the only thing to raise slight concern :D.

Anyway that's me and that's my second 2cv. As I say I'll write about my first 2cv soon. Apologies but the one thing I wasn't brilliant at was taking photos, if I find them, I'll add them! Older photos of this car are more then welcome.

Thanks everyone.
Sam.


February 5th, 2015, 12:26 am
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I know that car well, being a good friend of Spanners. Nice to finally see it back on the road. I remember it on the road in the late 1990's, before its very long slumber. All the best. :)

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February 5th, 2015, 12:51 am
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Brilliant news. I love seeing long-dormant 2cvs returned to the road!

I look forward to reading about your 1982 2cv as well. Is it a total lost cause?


February 5th, 2015, 11:30 am
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Thanks so much guys. My intention is to start work on my 1982 in the near future. The Cat-C was probably a little harsh with hindsight but then at the time I was certain the chassis was bent and the body was twisted (both don't appear to be). Turns out two of the doors just needed a bit of adjustment and they now close fine. The chassis looks ok but I won't know until I take the tub off and take measurements etc. There is quite a lot of corrosion (boot floor, windscreen panel) and probably a bit more once I start looking! :? But I'm not condemning it, it's a 2cv! :D


February 5th, 2015, 12:52 pm
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I now have insurance and road tax! It has quite literally bled my finances dry (having two novice sibling drivers on the policy will do that ;)) but combining it with my not-a-real-Citroen C1 has chipped a little bit off the combined policy totalling just over £1100 with all the fancy extras. More than the purchase price of 'Daisy' :o... Still see you on the road! ;)


February 6th, 2015, 7:50 pm
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Spanners seemed to have disapeared off of every platform

Sounds like a bargain

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February 6th, 2015, 9:51 pm
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I met that car a couple of years or so ago at Spanners' house. It was very nice indeed. A lovely colour.

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February 9th, 2015, 5:31 pm
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So what's new with 'Daisy' then? Well due to the fact that my brother will be using it a great deal of the time in particular to go back and forth to college three times a week, miles away from where we live, I thought it a good idea to get the fuel guage working.


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This isn't the most inspiring thing in the world and constant trips to the petrol station, fuel can/beer bottle in the boot or even an old car style dipstick doesn't quite appeal so alas I must get it sorted!


Having read historical posts on the International Forum, I learned that at some point in recent years the fuel sender unit had been replaced by Spanners. This was both encouraging and concerning. Encouraging in the sense that the unit was probably not the cusp of the problem but the fuel gauge or wiring may be. But then again it could have been something as simple as a faulty earth or connection.


But seeing as I didn't want to crawl under the car just yet I decided to test the gauge which was as simple separating the positive wire to the sender unit from inside the car and touching it to earth with ignition on the result...


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Working fuel gauge, result! Well sort of...

I decided to rope my brother in to help with the under car bit. I crawled under the car and found new looking wiring, undid one of the mounts for the fuel tank to release the earth which again all looked very neat and tidy and even had copper ease on the bolt - very professional! Nevertheless we tried testing the earth on various different points but to no avail. we would, it would seem, have to drop the tank.


With the tank dropped and the easiest possible solution not confirmed, (both wires at the top of the sender were still on and had clean contacts) it became apparent that the sender appeared both new and not working.


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Upon taking it out nothing looked obviously wrong (the float worked and wasn't sticking and it looked quite clean) But after wracking my brain around how the internals should work, with the help of a circuit tester, finally concluded that lack of contacts within the unit was the problem so fettled them back into place, put it all back together, fuel in and perfect all working! :D



So I could put the toolbox away and drive safe in the knowledge that 'Daisy' was performing like a well oiled machine. Well I could and indeed I did. I did a full 100 miles until I noticed underneath the car. :?


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Further inspection revealed that there was a nice spray of oil around the N/S cylinder head. A simple case a incorrectly fitted or faulty gasket I thought. However my brother pointed out when you held the rocker cover up to the light you could see a tiny hole from where the valve gear had hit the inside of the rocker cover.


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You often hear about not over tightening the rocker covers for this reason and I can confirm with absolute certainty that they were torqued to the setting specified by the various sources I read including the original dealer engine rebuild manual so I can only assume that, that particular rocker cover had been over tightened in the past? Fortunately the latest edition of the magazine showed that you can tighten the securing nut up to the correct torque with only your middle finger so that's what I did and it seemed to do the trick. The replacement cover may not be painted and shiny but at least it's not a colander! ;)


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Last jobs were refitting the wing topping up the engine oil which, judging by the level, was just as well or 'Daisy' could've have spent a further 15 years in hibernation. :(


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February 11th, 2015, 1:02 am
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