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Author: | subarupete [ May 19th, 2014, 3:31 pm ] |
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no gear-tooth marks? so hopefully just sat on the magnet |
Author: | ken [ May 19th, 2014, 3:32 pm ] |
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1. You'd be much better off using an end cover which has the boss for mounting a reversing light switch. 2. Looks like one of the two 'Belleville' type spring washers which should be fitted on the gear lever side of this linkage... http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/repair-jo ... -1480.html Some careless work by a previous owner or a partially sighted mechanic? |
Author: | 2CViking [ May 19th, 2014, 6:06 pm ] |
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Pottsy Repco or Auto barn can sell you a pull switch which you mount on the firewall with a chain to the top of the gear lever connection. Piece of piss. |
Author: | subarupete [ May 19th, 2014, 6:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Should I be worried? |
see this ...much better http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/reversing ... -1938.html |
Author: | Pottsy [ May 20th, 2014, 1:11 am ] |
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1. No tooth marks so yes, I believe it's had a quiet life magnetically attracted. 2. While I agree that I'd be better off with the "right" end cover, I'm severely limited in their availability over here. I was wanting to make a neat installation and figured that there was enough thickness in this cover to enable me to do so. 3. Certainly looks like one side from the gear linkage. I can imagine a scenario where the cover's been removed in situ and the gear linkage hanging above detached temporarily I suppose. 4. Peter. Certainly what you describe is un morceau du pis but I was wanting a slightly neater and more robust system. The car has had a worm drive clamp on the gear shift inside operating on a microswitch poking out of a bracket on the dash. Rough as guts. Having a couple of Mini reversing light switches lying around so to speak I was looking at something that appeared a bit more "factory" 5. Subarupete, that's the page that provided me with the image of the "correct" end cover. It also said that only cars with that end cover could be fitted with such a switch. A challenge if ever I heard one! Thanks for the replies chaps. I think I'll breathe a bit easier now that it seems probable the washer came from somewhere external to the box. I guess I won't know until I finally get the thing on the road, still a long way away. Incidentally, can end covers be changed with impunity? By the look of it the inside surface provides endwise location for the two longitudinal shafts. Is there any pre-loading on these? I can't see any shims present and I imagine that a little bit of end play would be de rigeur for these rather agricultural devices? Cheers chaps. Pottsy |
Author: | ken [ May 20th, 2014, 1:41 am ] |
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Pottsy, to clarify, there should be both a spring washer and plain washer on each side of the rubber bush. Perhaps the original 'washer dropper' assumed there should only be one on each side, so never realised that one had gone awol? The end cover clamps the outer race of both mainshaft and pinion shaft rear bearings into the main casing. End play in either bearing indicates wear, I'd have thought... ![]() Ken Pottsy wrote: 3. Certainly looks like one side from the gear linkage. I can imagine a scenario where the cover's been removed in situ and the gear linkage hanging above detached temporarily I suppose. Incidentally, can end covers be changed with impunity? By the look of it the inside surface provides endwise location for the two longitudinal shafts. Is there any pre-loading on these? I can't see any shims present and I imagine that a little bit of end play would be de rigeur for these rather agricultural devices? Cheers chaps. Pottsy |
Author: | Pottsy [ May 20th, 2014, 2:05 am ] |
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Ken. Totally agree in regard to end play. I posed the query as I noticed the centre shaft, bearing and all, moving slightly fore and aft in the main gearbox housing as I operated the gear shift. I'm assuming this movement is held in check by the end cover as you say, but I wondered if each one was somehow matched to the main housing as there are no obvious adjusting shims on the inside of the rear housing. Bear with me as I'm very new to 2CV's in general. My experience has been in DS, Xantia and Classic Minis. (An eclectic mix I think you'll agree) |
Author: | ChrisW [ May 20th, 2014, 8:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Should I be worried? |
When I stripped down my box the other day, I read that there would be shims in the end cover to hold the bearing in place but when I carefully removed it hey presto - nothing???? |
Author: | 2CViking [ May 20th, 2014, 8:46 am ] |
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ChrisW wrote: When I stripped down my box the other day, I read that there would be shims in the end cover to hold the bearing in place but when I carefully removed it hey presto - nothing???? Rear covers on modern gear boxes are machined not to have any shims, whereas earlier boxes need shims |
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