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Sean
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 Re: Rivets Viking just get a bit of copper pipe and bat it flat, hold it behind the hole and zap till the weld fills the hole aluminium works too if its a big enough piece- those pop rivets will have left the perfect sized holes for plug/puddle welding.  bonnet hinge repair by Sean602, on Flickr and Airframe solid dural rivets are a different kettle of fish to the diy pop rivet soft hollow rivets.
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ayjay
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Re: Rivets ken wrote: ayjay, I'd doubt that those were stainless rivets, looked more like alloy to me and if that was the case, you wouldn't need to drill them out as a few 'well-salted' winters would see them off.  Also, it's all very well looking at the area covered by the 'primary' head, but what you've failed to take into account is how easily the 'secondary' head could be pulled through. With 2 thin sheets being joined there should have been a backing washer fitted before each rivet was set. That's only if you were putting together thin cladding on a caravan or trailer, pop rivets have no place around structural panels of a vehicle. ken ayjay wrote: i thought it was a good idea about the rivets
they are those big stainless ones by the looks-
some of the crap mig welding is much inferior
also all that needs to be done when the panel rusts is drill out the rivits for replacement hi ken, i assumed that the rivets had a backing washer, and were stainless alloy ones a big no-no 
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Smiffy
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Re: Rivets Nothing wrong with hand painting if it's done well, Viking!  Not sure about the point of grass on the floor, though. But I understand about the crapness of cheap pop rivets now: structural strength and longevity. 
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toomany2cvs
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Re: Rivets Smiffy wrote: After all, rivets can work very well, and be very strong. Ask aeroplane builders. Have a read of this as to WHY aircraft use rivets... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/01 ... page2.html
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Rhythm Thief
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Re: Rivets Aircraft rivets were used on series Land Rovers, too (and for all I know, are still used on modern Land Rovers). The reason for this is that when the Solihull factory switched production from aircraft at the end of WWII, they had millions of the things left over and decided to use them up on the new vehicle they were building instead. Isn't that interesting?
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Smiffy
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Re: Rivets Rhythm Thief wrote: Aircraft rivets were used on series Land Rovers, too (and for all I know, are still used on modern Land Rovers). The reason for this is that when the Solihull factory switched production from aircraft at the end of WWII, they had millions of the things left over and decided to use them up on the new vehicle they were building instead. Isn't that interesting? Yes it is! And wasn't that why all the early Landies were olive-drab green? On account of all that spare paint that was knocking around?
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ken
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Re: Rivets Rhythm Thief, I'd guess those weren't pop rivets, then? Anyone who argues that because rivets were used on aircraft, pop rivets are OK to hold structural elements of cars together, should be told to watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... B3rIECtxM#! Chalk and cheese...  Ken
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Rhythm Thief
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Re: Rivets Nope, not pop rivets ... 3/16" solid aircraft rivets, fitted with a snap and a bucking bar and a big hammer. I know this because I fitted some when I put new tub cappings on my Landy. I'd never argue that pop rivets (or any other rivets) were ok for structural panels!
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2CViking
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Re: Rivets ken wrote: Rhythm Thief, I'd guess those weren't pop rivets, then? Anyone who argues that because rivets were used on aircraft, pop rivets are OK to hold cars together, should be told to watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... B3rIECtxM#! Chalk and cheese... Ken This should eliminate any doubts for the back yarders. 
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Smiffy
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Re: Rivets You can buy Eurofighter rivets from the RAF museum in London. Only £0.50 (€0.60, $0.76Au, $0.80US) each. Would those be OK to use?
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