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twofifty AZU wrote:

Indeed people keep banging on about this but I don't really see it. Take this one for instance. Fair enough it is pink, but it has a galvanised chassis and 5 months tax and 5 months MOT. Yours for 810 quid; it is hardly Bugatti money. It is in a sensible place and someone flagged it up on the forum.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1988-CITROEN-2-CV ... 2c5a781999


I have to say I agree with 250AZU - I just don't get the fuss.

With the odd exception, I don't see prices as being over the top either. If you want a taxed and MOT'd 2CV that might have the odd hole but isn't rotten, and will most likely have a galv chassis to boot, then how can you expect to pay less than a grand for this? I paid just over £1k for just this condition over a year ago and still consider that fair enough. It now needs further work - suspension, brakes, etc - to get it roadworthy again; I consider that 'fair enough' too. That - literally - shocking pink 2CV shows that a decent runner is still available. It's a runner, it's legal, it has a galv chassis, it ain't rotten.

If you 'patch it up' and give it a respray, it'll fetch £2k+. Make a 'better' job of it and get £3k+. Do it 'properly' and get £5k+. Where is any of that anything but 'fair enough'?! If you have £1k, you can have a running, legal 2CV. If you look after it - and you should - it won't depreciate. That's fair enough in spades in my book.

That pink 2CV and the tatty Charlie I bought both had galv'd chassis fitted. How much did that cost the previous owner - £600 as an absolute minimum? C'mon...


February 10th, 2011, 1:19 am
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reading this thread about 2cv's being worth too much money and how its spoiling the fun of owning them, its true the fun of having a really trashy 2cv to drive around in has gone, I would never dream of filling one up with old (empty) oil barrels and bits weirdly of a scrap ford escort, driving into a wood and then pretending to be nine inch nails (the band) by hitting them very hard with sticks (a bit odd i know, but i was young, many many years ago now), but I can still have this fun with Dyanes which are worth a fragment of a 2cv for much the same thing (i know that not every one likes the looks, but you get used to them - i promise) I had great fun filling mine up with huge oil painting canvases, driving down almost off road tracks and painting away.

The day of fun 2cving may be drawing to a close, but long live the day of the fun dyane


February 10th, 2011, 11:23 am
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Each to there own and all that, but I've reached my conclusion: DUCK the agonising over the value! For me, it's just a case of enjoying what I've got and getting on with it. Parts are still relatively cheap and available, thanks to ecas and ebay, so let the fun continue. Keeping the rust at bay is the important bit. My kids adore the car (much to my surprise) and it is the perfect runabout for my typical 10 mile trips here and there, with weekend thrashes around the country lanes of Worcs and Shrops, so there is simply no reason to worry about the supposed end of fun 2cv-ing, and no reason to sell, unless I want to crystallise my asset: and that is actually what it means to reach the end of the fun: to swap the laughs for a wad of ducking cash.

The prices are going up. So what? Just enjoy what you've got. We'll all be ducking dead in the long run, anyway. And what's the worst that can happen to your appreciating asset? A nobhead nicks it! Well, you're insured aren't you?

Can't help but feel that all this "end of fun" stuff is part of a wider anxiety about the state of the economy, work, government, interest rates, money, pensions, war, the collapse of western civilisation, armagedon, the coming of the four horsemen etc etc. Stop fretting. Don't Worry Be Happy. Light a candle rather than moaning about the dark, Enjoy Yourself (It's Later Than You Think) etc etc.

Apologies for the rant! Guess who drank too much wine last night?

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February 10th, 2011, 12:00 pm
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Smiffy wrote:
Keeping the rust at bay is the important bit.

Aka "The bit that pisses you off as it returns so quickly and why should this happen on a four grand car?" - bit.
Smiffy wrote:
The prices are going up. So what? Just enjoy what you've got. We'll all be ducking dead in the long run, anyway. And what's the worst that can happen to your appreciating asset? A nobhead nicks it! Well, you're insured aren't you?

Mines worth five grand on fire...Hmmm.... surely your not suggesting..... :lol:
Smiffy wrote:
Stop fretting. Don't Worry Be Happy. Light a candle rather than moaning about the dark, Enjoy Yourself (It's Later Than You Think) etc etc.


Pass us that spliff Smiffy I'm sure I'll come around. :P

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February 10th, 2011, 12:24 pm
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Spliff used to be de rigeur, but now I go running to relax. Cannot believe what's happened to me in my 40s, tbh!!

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Exercise is the best drug going, and running's a great stress-buster isn't it? Let's you think things through without interruptions. I think your 40's are great. Well it depends, needing reading glasses isn't great, it's frustrating, but passing that golden moment when you realise that from the bottom of your heart you really and truly don't give a toss for the negative opinions of others is fantastic - very liberating. :lol:

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dkr wrote:
The day of fun 2cving may be drawing to a close, but long live the day of the fun dyane


I had my first on-road dyane experiance yesterday and loved it: squishy suspension, draughty roof - It was great, and boy was it quick! (bit noisy)

I'd be really tempted by one as an everday/throw it around car


February 10th, 2011, 3:03 pm
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Running is great, once you get fit enough to get beyond that "oh god I'm gonna die!" feeling that overwhelms you on your first dozen or so runs... I'm taking part in an event on Saturday, as it happens: The Hellrunner, at Cannock. Should be interesting!

(BTW, I'm not obsessive about running (or anything really); I just enjoy it!)

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il always remember my first one, a yellow and purple badly sprayed thing with plenty of rust, I got it to replace my first 2cv, which caught fire (with me and 3 freinds in) and nearly blew up blue bell hill petrol station - fun days, its truly amazing the amount of people and stuff you can get in one with that hatch back, high lights being 5 people and all there luggage to derbyshire from kent, and a party where I was the last sober one there and after much bribery squeezed 7 in to get back home.

They are fantastic cars and I cant wait for mine to live again - it sort of spilt in two one day but all nearly fixed and better once more


February 10th, 2011, 5:01 pm
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They are fantastic cars, due to the original concept. Today I tend to see more cars kept as pets though than used as Citroen intended, which is good in a way (for the cars) but it takes away the spirit of the original 2cv's. Nothing lasts forever I guess.

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I have to say I agree with 250AZU - I just don't get the fuss.
If you have £1k, you can have a running, legal 2CV. If you look after it - and you should - it won't depreciate. That's fair enough in spades in my book.

Think of what you get for a grand though. Rough, scabby, leaky and needing work. Ok it has a galvy chassis, but that's it. The rest is worn and needs lots of work. Now here's my point. When 2cv's as described above were around £150, which wasn't too long ago, then that was fair enough. Not much else was available for that price. But if today you have £1000 to buy a car then there's so much else on offer for that money. look what that rusty old 2cv is up against.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250769202891&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180620703251&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180619664797&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

So unless 2cv's are to become speciality interest like Austin 7's and the like, to be seen pottering down country lanes on sunny Sundays then I feel they're over priced. Like I've said, you can't turn back the clock so it is what it is - I just can't help feeling there's a sense of 'The Emperors new clothes' about it that's all.

Smiffy I used to run a lot, but my knee gives me trouble these days. done the great North run a few times, I enjoyed that.

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