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toomany2cvs
Firing on two.
Joined: December 26th, 2008, 9:40 pm Posts: 3332 Location: Surrounded by 2cvs...
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 Re: Rivets
Smiffy wrote: You can buy Eurofighter rivets from the RAF museum in London. Only £0.50 (€0.60, $0.76Au, $0.80US) each. Would those be OK to use? Somebody's finally found a supplier that makes Cassis look cheap. They only charge €0.50 each for pop rivets (for a bag of 20, admittedly they are slightly cheaper in bulk). <thinks> Oh, wait. The UK "agent" for Cassis converts the prices at £1=€1...
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January 18th, 2013, 5:51 pm |
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Diesel Dave
2CV Fan
Joined: October 31st, 2012, 5:31 pm Posts: 79
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 Re: Rivets
Just imagine the original design concept for the 2CV had retained the Ally chassis.
Riveting would be one of the few ways to join differing thickness of ally together to form a chassis.
Besides plenty of the bridges in use today are held together by Victorian hand riveting.
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January 18th, 2013, 6:09 pm |
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samfieldhouse
Firing on two.
Joined: February 11th, 2009, 12:32 am Posts: 3324 Location: Chichester, West Sussex
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 Re: Rivets
ken wrote: pop rivets have no place around structural panels of a vehicle.
But I saw the error of my ways, after all: Russell wrote: Welding is so easy and widely available I'm going to make you reget saying that 
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January 18th, 2013, 6:11 pm |
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J-dub
Aircooled Idiot
Joined: April 24th, 2010, 10:01 am Posts: 5733 Location: Location Location
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 Re: Rivets
samfieldhouse wrote: ken wrote: pop rivets have no place around structural panels of a vehicle.
But I saw the error of my ways, after all: Russell wrote: Welding is so easy and widely available I'm going to make you reget saying that  I did tell you riveting your car to Hold it together wasnt a good idea!!!
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January 18th, 2013, 6:43 pm |
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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 Re: Rivets
Dave, some of those bridges are still in existence because, after assessment, their load carrying capacity was found to be insufficient for the 11.5 tonne axle loads expected with 40 tonne lorries. In some cases, it was corrosion of their wrought iron girders which was the problem and since that cannot be welded, repair work involved cover plates with high strength friction grip bolts. Not one of the senior management from Leeds office was on site the day that this one was lifted off its abutments, so I guess if it had all gone 'orrribly wrong, I'd have got all of the blame... Whitley Bridge, 1977 & 1997 by slcchassis, on Flickr Diesel Dave wrote: J Besides plenty of the bridges in use today are held together by Victorian hand riveting.
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January 18th, 2013, 7:21 pm |
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Rhythm Thief
Firing on two.
Joined: March 10th, 2010, 12:37 am Posts: 1927 Location: Alone in my polytunnel with my pitiful competition onions
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You're getting me confused with Diesel Dave ... 
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January 18th, 2013, 7:39 pm |
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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Arrgh, that's what 6 hours of shufffling paperwork does. Back out to the shed for some welding tomorrow, even if I've got to dig my way through... Rhythm Thief wrote: You're getting me confused with Diesel Dave ... 
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January 18th, 2013, 9:17 pm |
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knightley
Firing on two.
Joined: June 19th, 2010, 8:40 pm Posts: 761 Location: Kingswood, S.Glos.
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ken wrote: Dave, some of those bridges are still in existence because, after assessment, their load carrying capacity was found to be insufficient for the 11.5 tonne axle loads expected with 40 tonne lorries. In some cases, it was corrosion of their wrought iron girders which was the problem and since that cannot be welded, repair work involved cover plates with high strength friction grip bolts. Not one of the senior management from Leeds office was on site the day that this one was lifted off its abutments, so I guess if it had all gone 'orrribly wrong, I'd have got all of the blame... Whitley Bridge, 1977 & 1997 by slcchassis, on Flickr Diesel Dave wrote: J Besides plenty of the bridges in use today are held together by Victorian hand riveting. That 'Bailey' (or is it an Acrow?) has got a nice deflection going 
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January 20th, 2013, 9:26 pm |
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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knightley, it was Mabey and Johnson ( formerly Bailey) back then, pity that they got themselves into so much trouble more recently for offering bribes to obtain overseas contracts. No worries about the sag, it was a 'characteristic' of Bailey bridges because of their pinned construction and in any case that one was doubled to carry the dead load of the old bridge. This one is quite a good example of what to expect... knightley wrote: That 'Bailey' (or is it an Acrow?) has got a nice deflection going 
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