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 Pony's Project - 4x4 
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Post Re: Pony's Project - 4x4
I could do, it as flat pack
but prefer not to as

Without the Jig Table it would probably warp
and loads of chance to get the welding sequence wrong!

( about 3 test chassis out in the back yard rusting, waiting for the scrap)!!

However plans are a foot and already laser parts are cut, to build a 4x2 L W (Lighter weight version)

From this year onwards I am offering L W versions of several parts

Not yet on the Jig table so not sure on weight
but probably in the 65 ish KG region

and hopefully Ali front sump guards From a local source!!

pony

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April 23rd, 2013, 9:05 pm
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Tank

Hmm
looking to fit 2
about 10 litre each on each side of the rear chassis legs
under the boot floor
Ali,

so am working on the drawings this week and may have one in 2 weeks

however for the future

A stock tank would be best but still aint found what i am lookin for!
Nothing available in the Citroen Peugeot Range

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April 23rd, 2013, 9:13 pm
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Post Re: Pony's Project - 4x4
Close the tunnel/tube in the chassis at the front and rear end, al least 30 liters 8-) 8-) 8-)
only problem is going up/downhill when almost empty

Now what is that tunnel/tube for anyway...... propshaft goes above the chassis I guess

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Post Re: Pony's Project - 4x4
1/ Closer to 15 litres?
2/ Torque tube? ;)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/14/trex ... -true-tor/

lpgo wrote:
Close the tunnel/tube in the chassis at the front and rear end, al least 30 liters 8-) 8-) 8-)
only problem is going up/downhill when almost empty

Now what is that tunnel/tube for anyway...... propshaft goes above the chassis I guess

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April 23rd, 2013, 10:47 pm
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Well I don't think I know much about chassis I guess... ;) ;) ;)

I think I was the first who build a galvanised 2cv (4x4) chassis...
and yes it was/is road legal too....
Had a whole discusion with Louis about distortion, weight gain and sagging back then.

Soon afterwards Louis started to galvanise his chassis too......

The only thing I try to say that a 2cv has a ladder chassis,
so the tube doesn't give much torque strenght overall, meaning there are lighter ways to give a 2cv chassis torque strenght then this tube.......

Well we here it from the master.... I hope...
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April 23rd, 2013, 11:35 pm
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Other ways have crossed my mind, that's for sure... ;)



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lpgo wrote:
The only thing I try to say that a 2cv has a ladder chassis,
so the tube doesn't give much torque strenght overall, meaning there are lighter ways to give a 2cv chassis torque strenght then this tube.......


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April 24th, 2013, 12:50 am
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CRUEL

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April 24th, 2013, 7:26 am
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Other ways have crossed my mind, that's for sure... ;)



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thats almost re inventing the wheel :lol: ;) guess the hourglass shape of the original chassis was halfway between a cruciform and a central box beam.

again Citroen did the most with the least amount of material - shame they were so corrosion prone.

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April 24th, 2013, 8:12 am
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Sean wrote:
again Citroen did the most with the least amount of material - shame they were so corrosion prone.


Amen.

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April 24th, 2013, 12:15 pm
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Post Re: Pony's Project - 4x4
Actually the tube down the centre of the chassis really does make it stiffer

I use round tubing as
100 mm of tube gives about 310 mm of un rolled plate
this is about 25 % less than a box section

100 mm tubing with 2.00 mm wall thickness is Easy to find and fair price
Does not distort during welding
and and and
And more importantly

Mounting possibility for

Seat belts
Seats
Propshaft bearing

(also i hope to seal in the drive train with rubber bellows to the gear box and diff

so mud free enviroment!

Think back to Haflinger they use a tube for the main chassis!

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