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Author:  subarupete [ December 2nd, 2016, 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Make Your Own ....2CV.... 4x4

Tried out some bits today to see if the concept will fit together.
It will be very tight but I think doable.

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Author:  AZL57 [ December 2nd, 2016, 11:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Make Your Own ....2CV.... 4x4

looks great but isn't it going to be very heavy?

Author:  lpgo [ December 3rd, 2016, 1:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make Your Own ....2CV.... 4x4

it is heavy but with (very) low ratio it isn't a point...


This evening I had an idea about the timedelay in the rideheight adjustment.. So I couldn't resist I had to translate my idea into a programm for the microchip.. and now it works.. just like a height regulator of a BX CX DS aso.

If you power it up it will take a few seconds and then it will react to the actual height. If it is to heigh it will go down and if it is to low it will go up to the givien height of your choise (by switch).. Then it will start over again and when it is more then 5 seconds to low it will rise again.. Well you know the principle I guess....I will make a video in the weekend..

Author:  subarupete [ December 3rd, 2016, 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make Your Own ....2CV.... 4x4

@looks great but isn't it going to be very heavy?

The current mid engine set up is 870 Kgs, which is heavy.

Some of the protos in France with light weight chassis are are about 550 Kgs.

The future plan is to try and make a Tubular Space frame (combined body and chassis)

Author:  subarupete [ December 3rd, 2016, 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make Your Own ....2CV.... 4x4

@lpgo
At the rear I know have put in the standard springs, the struts are used to raise the vehicle from standard height.
At the front I'm considering "Coil Over Springs" to set the standard height so its works like the rear end.

Author:  jasu [ December 3rd, 2016, 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Make Your Own ....2CV.... 4x4

About weight. If I recall correct, you (Pete and Geo) had some betting, and some arguement about it is impossible to keep 4x4 light... So, my 4x4 was "only" 590kg on MOT scale, what surprised but was a goal (to have all seats still, our regulations)...

Weight saving is at first very easy, but after the easy part it is going hard and expensive. Same issue when tuning engine, first HP are easy to have, but after "critical point" next HP's are much harder and cost much more...

Author:  lpgo [ December 4th, 2016, 10:58 am ]
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[quote="jasu] So, my 4x4 was "only" 590kg on MOT scale.
...[/quote]


But Jasu. you are playing foul play.. you left the original cardboards out....

Author:  subarupete [ December 4th, 2016, 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make Your Own ....2CV.... 4x4

cardboards = Door-cards?

Author:  lpgo [ December 4th, 2016, 11:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make Your Own ....2CV.... 4x4

Honnestly Jasu,I think you did a great job here but; you can't compare your car with Pete's..

You're steps:

-spare wheel
-jack
-mass dampers
-door cards
-bumpers
-seat belts
-about 7kg from flywheel
-all drum brakes replaced by disc brakes
-big battery replaced by small one
-choose most light tires I could find



As a start Pete has a 1. generation Louis Barbour 4x4 chassis which also has some extra reinforments ect.
Heavy tyres
Hydropneumatics
heavy duty bumpers
Suzuki transfer gearbox

ect.
ect.
ect.

I would put it like this, if you took your car half an hour to Daigny or Morvan, you could collect the pieces of the car..... With Pete's car you can collect Pete... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Author:  lpgo [ December 4th, 2016, 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Make Your Own ....2CV.... 4x4

subarupete wrote:
cardboards = Door-cards?


Yes.. ;) ;) ;)

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