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 A 4x4 is (re)born 
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Thanks to Evil Ben's Dyane air ride topic
http://www.international2cvfriends.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3447&start=170
I've just ordered 4 Monroe MA828 airshocks for my 4x4....... in USA... finally hoping on a decent solution for air-riding my 4x4........

just for your entertainment, something like this.....


They have a stroke of more then 10 inch....... I think I need 4 on 1 axle....... to cope the force needed at the Original mounting (measured 1/3) so you need 3 times the power to
a conventional spring setup.....

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April 2nd, 2014, 12:17 am
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Xmass is early this year......

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so my idea is to attach 2 airshocks to 1 arm and hope it will devellop enough power to lift a 2cv...........

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April 17th, 2014, 6:12 pm
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Now this rocks doesn't it.....

Barbour 4x4 rear-arms with 2 airshocks each. This is what I had in my head for over 2 years (luckely no voices) :roll: :roll: :roll:

Walking around with a bo*er looking at this... sorry....... Can't wait to see my car going up and down on air....


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April 17th, 2014, 8:03 pm
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Nice!
Something like 15 cm from arm pivot center to shock pivot center?


April 17th, 2014, 8:16 pm
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AZS wrote:
Nice!
Something like 15 cm from arm pivot center to shock pivot center?



Spot on...... 15cm armlength 45cm, so ratio 1 to 3. Fingers crossed it will work...

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April 17th, 2014, 8:19 pm
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I sure do help you hope it works.
It would be great to have a well working suspension/damper combination in one unit, well a bit more units in your case ;)
What's the diameter of the "bag" and the piston rod?


April 17th, 2014, 8:29 pm
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AZS wrote:
I sure do help you hope it works.
It would be great to have a well working suspension/damper combination in one unit, well a bit more units in your case ;)
What's the diameter of the "bag" and the piston rod?


Something around 70mm for the piston.... I did some calculations in Excel and I come to the conclusion that 2 times 70mm pistons equal 1 100mm piston...

Here is the Excell sheet it is in Dutch but that will be no problem for you....

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You can een substract the diameter of the pistonrod....

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April 17th, 2014, 9:18 pm
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Geo, that looks the tits!
Please finish this (part of the) project first so we can see the results!!!

Harley

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It is M9 for the shocks yes, the rest I'll check when next i'm underneath her. Ironically, this will be valentines day.


April 19th, 2014, 4:33 pm
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Not sure if i completely understand your sheet, but i'm sure you'll get it working.
It looks like there is enough room on the suspension ears to move the Monroes even more out, in case the needed air pressure is to high with the current position.
What compressor will you be using?


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what about this type :mrgreen:
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