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 A 4x4 is (re)born 
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Post A 4x4 is (re)born
A 4x4 is (re)born

After 10 years of making 2cv4x4's a Sahara replica an Ami 6 service toléé with Mehari 4x4 technics I started to make the ultimate 4x4 2cv (at least for me)......

This is now 10 years ago.
But then it happens; a girlfriend (witch is now my wife) an old barn (witch is now my house) and 10 years went by.

But now I picking it up.

The ultimate 4x4 2cv.
2cv 4x4's are very good in the terrain, the only thing is going over a hill, the chassis lays in the middle at the ground and your'e stuck.

So this is what I want(ed) to make;

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I've made the chassis for the Ami service by myself but it is much overdone..
(too strong and too heavy) so the new chassis is going to be a lightweight.
As you can see, behind the front axle the chassis is going up for 11cm, the back axle go's underneeth the chassis, in the middle you have 11cm more ground-clearance. The drifshaft is going through the chassis like a Mehari 4x4 does too. The rear axle is a front axle flipped 180 degrees, linked to a coilover spring (push insted of pull).

So after more then 10 years today I digged out the chassis witch I already started to make. A little bit rusty but nothing seriously.


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Iv'e already started making a transferbox too, all made of standard 2cv parts and steel plate/tube welded together.
I bought an old lathe and gave it a go.

The nicest thing about the transferbox is when you engage 4.gear it pops out of 4x4 automaticly!!!!

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The back gearbox I did already 12 years ago, is already in working order.

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So now you've seen everything I've got already,
this will be this winters project so hopefully I can go to France (wm2011) with it..

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October 10th, 2010, 9:39 pm
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That's a fantastic idea with the chassis. I'm excited to see it finished. I'm guessing it'll be effectively channeled?

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October 10th, 2010, 9:46 pm
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Post Re: A 4x4 is (re)born
Looks great!

Where in Limburg do you live? I guess somewere in the south region, because of the 4x4 service Valkenburg on the side of the Ami. I lived in Valkenburg untill 2 years ago...

Is the Ami still alive? Or only the mechanics?

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October 10th, 2010, 9:49 pm
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Russell wrote:
That's a fantastic idea with the chassis. I'm excited to see it finished. I'm guessing it'll be effectively channeled?



No, I want do do it anti-channeling?!/!@?. I want to make the sills 10cm higher then they are originally, so they don't 'get hurt in the terrain'. Maybe I chop the top of the body (vent flap out) so the overall height is the same as an original 2cv.....

The center of gravity will go up a little, but I think it will work well..

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October 10th, 2010, 9:57 pm
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Tom Duckpower wrote:
Where in Limburg do you live? I guess somewere in the south region, because of the 4x4 service Valkenburg on the side of the Ami. I lived in Valkenburg untill 2 years ago...

Is the Ami still alive? Or only the mechanics?


I live in Kerkrade,

The Ami is still alive and in good condition (but not kicking at the moment no APK=dutch MOT.)
My wife's son will be 18 in January; I promised him he can drive the ami to the wm 2011, when he's got his licence in time......

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October 10th, 2010, 10:01 pm
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Great project. I love technical topics like this.

What is the lid on your back gearbox from? it's got no change lever. :?

And I have to admit to giggling at the second paragraph, Freudian slip?

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And I have to admit to giggling at the second paragraph, Freudian slip?


Well what did I wrong this time... last time I spellt Gay insted of Guy, I'm sorry for mistakes, but please read what I meen not what I write......

About the lid (b.t.w. it meens dick in dutch so now I am giggling, I've welded it that way, nice job hey..

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October 10th, 2010, 10:16 pm
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Sod the chassis, what a _lovely_ CX...

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10 years ago! I remember seeing the chassis when you were building it.

Can't believe time has gone by so fast!

Good luck and see you in France with your usual WM drink!!

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A 4x4 is (re)born

After 10 years of making 2cv4x4's a Sahara replica an Ami 6 service toléé with Mehari 4x4 technics I started to make the ultimate 4x4 2cv (at least for me)......

This is now 10 years ago.
But then it happens; a girlfriend (witch is now my wife) an old barn (witch is now my house) and 10 years went by.

But now I picking it up.

The ultimate 4x4 2cv.
2cv 4x4's are very good in the terrain, the only thing is going over a hill, the chassis lays in the middle at the ground and your'e stuck.

So this is what I want(ed) to make;

Image

I've made the chassis for the Ami service by myself but it is much overdone..
(too strong and too heavy) so the new chassis is going to be a lightweight.
As you can see, behind the front axle the chassis is going up for 11cm, the back axle go's underneeth the chassis, in the middle you have 11cm more ground-clearance. The drifshaft is going through the chassis like a Mehari 4x4 does too. The rear axle is a front axle flipped 180 degrees, linked to a coilover spring (push insted of pull).

So after more then 10 years today I digged out the chassis witch I already started to make. A little bit rusty but nothing seriously.

So now you've seen everything I've got already,
this will be this winters project so hopefully I can go to France (wm2011) with it..

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Post Re: A 4x4 is (re)born
I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER (DON'T NEED TO MENTION WHO SAID THIS)

Tonight I started putting the 4x4 puzzle together and everything is going very well!!

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Driveshaft going trough the chassis

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A 2cv driveshaft is going in here

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Used an original engine mount both ends are going to be modified to fit my chassis.

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Groundclearance at the middle of the chassis 35cm, discbrake about 27 cm
just what I wanted.

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October 18th, 2010, 10:19 pm
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