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2CViking
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Joined: April 18th, 2009, 11:43 am Posts: 2424 Location: Meneac, Bretagne France
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Tools and Spares
What to bring or what not to bring. Weight is one of the main problems when raiding. Cars being over loaded with stuff that is never used. For example: 25 cars divided in to 5 groups of 5 cars each. IMO no need to carry 25 complete tool sets. 25 hammers, 25 of everything is very heavy. Same for parts, 25 coils etc etc. lots of unnecessary weight. Maybe 1 group leader per 5 cars well and correct equipped with tools and spares. 1 2cv can carry spare engine and gear box etc. On top of all the camping gear and personal stuff leave enough room for the beers.
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April 21st, 2009, 11:18 am |
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Dago
Firing on two.
Joined: February 27th, 2009, 7:26 pm Posts: 940 Location: Etelä-Savo, st Michel
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Re: Tools and Spares
That is THE problem for sure. There is going to be somekind of failure of something. When we know cars and people coming, we know parts and can divide them between cars. I know here few men been to Africa, so i will find out.
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April 22nd, 2009, 8:25 am |
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Erasmo
Firing on two.
Joined: January 18th, 2010, 4:35 pm Posts: 275
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Re: Tools and Spares
Ok, but what things should a group of 20-25 cars take with them to get everybody from A to B? What things do break down frequently?
I can imagine that the sand takes a toll from the moving parts...
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August 16th, 2010, 10:24 pm |
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2CViking
viking bastard
Joined: April 18th, 2009, 11:43 am Posts: 2424 Location: Meneac, Bretagne France
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Re: Tools and Spares
If we are around 20 cars or less, I'm happy to bring 1 gear box 1 engine and heaps of other spares as I normally do when raiding down under. My Viking Van is always too heavy loaded with tools and parts for nearly everyone. If you prepare the car correctly you should not break down, so little tools and parts are needed. However not being prepared correctly you use most of the time fixing the car, a real tuff time on your self + the other raiders. So prepare well and enjoy a trouble free jouney.
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August 16th, 2010, 10:52 pm |
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Erasmo
Firing on two.
Joined: January 18th, 2010, 4:35 pm Posts: 275
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Re: Tools and Spares
Of course preparation is the key. But when driving 20 +20 year old vehicles trough a desert there is always a chance of breakdowns.
I'll be happy to carry some spares and stuff to disperse the weight a bit.
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August 16th, 2010, 11:10 pm |
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2CViking
viking bastard
Joined: April 18th, 2009, 11:43 am Posts: 2424 Location: Meneac, Bretagne France
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Re: Tools and Spares
The risk is minimal if driving according to raod condition. Naturally if driving with your head under your arm, you will smash the car to pieces.
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August 16th, 2010, 11:25 pm |
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Norman
Firing on two.
Joined: May 11th, 2009, 3:17 pm Posts: 198
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Re: Tools and Spares
Erasmo wrote: Ok, but what things should a group of 20-25 cars take with them to get everybody from A to B? What things do break down frequently? . Instead of preaching why not tell the guy what you take?
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August 17th, 2010, 12:47 am |
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Erasmo
Firing on two.
Joined: January 18th, 2010, 4:35 pm Posts: 275
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Re: Tools and Spares
Norman wrote: Erasmo wrote: Ok, but what things should a group of 20-25 cars take with them to get everybody from A to B? What things do break down frequently? . Instead of preaching why not tell the guy what you take? I have zero raid experience, but when driving at home I always take with me a bobine, fan belt, points, bacoh, tyrips, ducktape, 5l of oil and fuel, swiss knife and a meter of copperwire.
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August 17th, 2010, 10:23 am |
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2CViking
viking bastard
Joined: April 18th, 2009, 11:43 am Posts: 2424 Location: Meneac, Bretagne France
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Re: Tools and Spares
Well if the car is prepared to a very high standard you don't need much. If the coil, points, plugs, fan belt, alternator etc etc is new or near new, there is no need to carry these spares. One problem is parts falling off the car during the raid but checking every single, screw, bolt and nuts should eliminate that. Some people prefer to be independent caring their own parts and to fix their own car, no worries as long as you bring a complete set of tool. The TEC team (Tail End Charlie) will also have what’s needed. Some ideas here. In no particular order: Tent Extra long solid pecks Chairs Table Torch Cooking gear Lighter Good solid pocket knife Sleeping gear incl pillows Insulating underlay Warm cloth Camera Tools & Spares Small good quality socket set 3/8 drive from 8mm-21mm (including spark plug socket 21mm) Spanners open ring 8mm-19mm + extra 11mm Fan removal tool Screwdriver set Hammer small Pliers: multi grip, cut off, etc. Feeler gauge Telescopic magnet Test lamp or multi meter Grease gun small incl grease Tow rope Good quality tie down rope Wheel nut tool Jack including wooden base 20x20x3mm Fuel hose Spare keys Small roll of electrical cable and terminal connectors Assortment: bolt, nuts, screws, washers, pins, clips, splits, clamps etc. Shovel Spare rim with good tyre on it. 1 extra tyre and 3 tubes 135-145/15 2 tyre levers Pump, electrical 12 v 12V Fridge Toothbrush (cut in half) Sunblock Hat Billy, sugar and tea. Engine & Gear oil Ice-cream containers for clean up and small brush Bucket Hand cleaner Rags Rubber gloves, disposable Wheel nuts Cable straps First aid kit Scissors Jerry cans plastic, not metal Funnel Hold down straps Cloth line "Duck tape" and insulation tape WD 40 spray small bottle 12v fuses min 10amp Brake fluid Tarp for river crossings. 10 liters of water per person 10 liters of cooking/washing water Insect repellent to both skin and clothing. The most effective repellents are those containing N,N-diethylmetatoluamide (DEET)
Feel free to add to the list.
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August 17th, 2010, 11:48 am |
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ken
Agony Aunt - You have a car problem? Speak to Ken
Joined: March 6th, 2009, 1:40 am Posts: 3675
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Re: Tools and Spares
Viking, a slightly larger wooden base might work better, especially if it's to be used on sand... ken 2CViking wrote: ....Jack including wooden base 20x20x3mm
Feel free to add to the list.
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August 17th, 2010, 11:39 pm |
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